Ernie:
Aha ! ! !   I finally see the light. You're a Manichaean. ;-)
 
It also gets back to the question of "who gets to  decide".  In my  
understanding, there are only two primary sources  of authority: power  
and love -- and power without love leads to  tyranny.
 
Actually, at least IMHO, there are a minimum of  4 sources of  authority  
                                        -- control, cie vous plait--
besides power and love, also market advantage ( who gives you advantage,  
you
tend to go along with, and sapiential authority. This was the late Robert  
Theobald's
coinage, to stand for the leadership of "knowers," viz, professionals like  
scientists,
doctors, professors, and so forth. Granted no-one has pure motives, no-one, 
we all fall short of the glory of God, but as a general principle.
 
So, my own model of "preferred autoirity," is some  version of  sapiential 
authority.
Since experts may well screw up and make mistakes, I seek to gain  as
much expertise as possible for myself.
 
I try to always be mindful of legitimate imperatives for love, its just  
that
I don't think this applies in all cases, and in some cases it really  
doesn't figure in
except maybe indirectly. As for power, don't take this literally, but my  
attitude
is "to hell with it."  I'm my own man and no-one who seeks to control  me
with power can possibly do so. Maybe it is necessary to make  compromises
to survive or gain marginal utility along the way, but you surely get the  
idea.
 
How would you *you* answer the question about who  gets to decide  
whether Pluto is a planet?
 
Established and useful tradition. 
 
Similarly a brontosaur is the best name, not aptiosaur. 
Therefore , Pluto is a planet. Case closed.
 
You can still say that it is a special case  -technically-- and is  similar 
to a
dwarf planet, and that it is good that Ceres is now classified as a dwarf  
planet,
but  how people learn science is also very important, and we all ( or  99% 
of us )
learned astronomy using the Pluto-the-planet model, and , since this  model
is more-or-less  OK even given the new definition of "planet," keep  the
classification, just add a footnote.
 
And whaddaya mean it doesn't clear its orbit ?  Sure it ( mostly )  does.
 
Sincerely
Kepler
 
=============================================
 
 
In a message dated 4/9/2009 2:18:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Hi  Billy,

On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:50 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Is  Pluto a planet ?  I'd like to know, but where love enters the   
> picture
> eludes me completely. Finding a method to predict  earthquakes would
> really be great, I'm all for it.  But what does  love have to do with  
> it ?
> And so forth, for a lengthy  list of similar concerns.

What's love got to do with it? Haven't you  seen the  protests!?!


http://cruftbox.com/blog/archives/001332.html

Clearly,  these are people who love the idea of Pluto being a planet,  
and hate  the fact that it isn't.  If not for love, there would be no   
issue at all.

It also gets back to the question of "who gets to  decide".  In my  
understanding, there are only two primary  sources of authority: power  
and love -- and power without love leads  to tyranny.

I believe the IAU had the right to decide whether or not  Pluto is a  
planet because they are the ones who "love" planets the  most.

How would you *you* answer the question about who gets to  decide  
whether Pluto is a planet?

-- Ernie  P.

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