David :
True, the Admin has made health care a signature issue, but  there is a lot 
more
to the WH and its policies than that bill. 
 
What I am curious about is what the possibilities for marketing in  
government are.
We have the administration we have, but there will be others, Thus, what is 
 the
role of marketing in governing ?  Or maybe more like it, what can its  role 
become
considering that so little is done with it now.?  If someone in  marketing 
was
making a proposal to Administration X, what would it say ?
 
I'm a social scientist, hence my interest.
 
But I do remember a joke I heard some place. Texas humor.
 
A freshly minted college grad was applying for a job in Dallas or  Houston
or someplace. The personnel manager said. "it isn't often we get  someone
with a degree in socialism here."  " But my degree is in  sociology."
"Well, we both know its the same thing."
 
 
Ha ha ha, ho, ho.. Actually it isn't, but I get the point.
 
Billy
 
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In a message dated 11/30/2009 8:55:27 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

You can only put so much lipstick on a couple of  2000 page plus pieces of 
legislation. After a while it looks gaudy.  

Maybe good or great marketing can get somebody to buy a s**t sandwich;  but 
not if the sense of smell has kicked in. 

David

  _   
 
"Free  speech is meant to protect unpopular speech. Popular speech, by 
definition,  needs no protection."—Neal Boortz 




[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  wrote:  
 
Ernie:
One thing is for sure, during the 2008 campaign the Obama team  had
expert marketers working for them. Not that marketing can play  the
exact same role as part of governance, but marketing as such seems  to
be AWOL as an Admin function. Why ?  Seems strange.
 
Billy
 
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In a message dated 11/30/2009 11:19:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])   writes:

Hi  Billy,

On Nov 30, 2009, at 11:13 AM, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  
wrote:

> A year  into his presidency, however, Obama’s gift for controlling his 
image  shows signs of faltering. As Washington returns to work from the  
Thanksgiving holiday, there are several anti-Obama storylines gaining  
momentum. 

A very good analysis. I don't know if any of them are  "true", but that is 
more-or-less beside the point; they have enough  contact with reality that 
if things go badly (as they seem to be at the  moment) these stories will 
gain traction.

Of course, if things go  well, they'll fade into obscurity.  Like I always 
say:

_http://www.radicalcentrism.org/marketing.html_ 
(http://www.radicalcentrism.org/marketing.html) 

11.   The Converged Law:
Eventually, marketing and  reality must converge.
Good marketing delays convergence;  Great marketing alters reality.


-- Ernie  P.
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