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I sometimes thing cf-talk has become cf-squawk. How can we get back the old friendly
high info cf-talk list? ;-)
Maybe we are talking about a moderated list?
I know someone in the ASP communuity (Charles Carrol) who ran about 30 different
moderated lists on ASP - for beginners, for SQL questions, for install problems etc
etc,. Some of the list had
very low traffic but everything was on topic. This was a LOT of work for him - I am
not sure if it is still being kept up! ;-)
Another way to look at this problem is to compare an on-line communuity to a city
growing in size. At first the group is small and everyone knows everyone else. People
are friendly. Then the
list grows and you don't know everyone and some people say nothing and just lurk -
just as people on city streets don't say hello. Finally as you have thousands of
people it is like being in a
big city - you don't know most people and people get rude because it is anonymous.
So what do people do in cities to get back to the village feeling? They have rules and
laws, they have schooling in certain subjects, they have gated communuities.
Maybe it is time for a better list than cf-talk. Perhaps a webbased submission form
with categories to pick from would help with subject lines. Maybe kicking people off
the list when they are
rude - or banning their posts for a week. Maybe there could be a training period
before you could post. Maybe don't let people into a list unless they are invited and
vouched for by another
member as CF Guru does.
Ideas anyone?
Thanks for listening.
- Michael Smith, TeraTech http://www.cfconf.org/
MDCFUG http://www.cfug-md.org/
Jim McAtee wrote:
> Yep. There's actually far less static on this list. A lot of people have
> stopped responding to help requests on the cf-talk list altogether. Make
> the mistake of posting a question in the evening and it's very likely to
> go unanswered, as the next day's list traffic burries it. I think at
> least one or two more CF lists would be welcome. To say I just glance at
> the list subjects now would be a gross understatement. Every once in a
> while something may catch my eye and I'll respond.
>
> Seeing the discussions yesterday about hardware system tuning, I think a
> good addition would be a cf-admin list for system administration and
> server issues. Most people on the cf-talk list are programmers, so they
> probably have little interest in those threads. Similar topics relevant
> to an administration list are system security, mail server software, web
> log analyzers, system monitoring tools, DNS issues, all of which
> invariably make it (with or without the little OT:) onto the main list.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judith Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, July 27, 2000 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Comma Problem
>
> >Adam's got a point, guys. Community is for off-topic questions for the
> >community. CF-Talk is usually the place for technical questions. I've
> >noticed more and more people posting tech questions to this list. Do
> people
> >find it easier to use this list than CF-Talk?
> >
> >Judith Dinowitz
>
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I sometimes thing cf-talk has become cf-squawk. How can we get back the
old friendly high info cf-talk list? ;-)
<p>Maybe we are talking about a moderated list?
<p>I know someone in the ASP communuity (Charles Carrol) who ran about
30 different moderated lists on ASP - for beginners, for SQL questions,
for install problems etc etc,. Some of the list had very low traffic but
everything was on topic. This was a LOT of work for him - I am not sure
if it is still being kept up! ;-)
<p>Another way to look at this problem is to compare an on-line communuity
to a city growing in size. At first the group is small and everyone knows
everyone else. People are friendly. Then the list grows and you don't know
everyone and some people say nothing and just lurk - just as people on
city streets don't say hello. Finally as you have thousands of people
it is like being in a big city - you don't know most people and people
get rude because it is anonymous.
<p>So what do people do in cities to get back to the village feeling? They
have rules and laws, they have schooling in certain subjects, they have
gated communuities.
<p>Maybe it is time for a better list than cf-talk. Perhaps a webbased
submission form with categories to pick from would help with subject lines.
Maybe kicking people off the list when they are rude - or banning their
posts for a week. Maybe there could be a training period before you could
post. Maybe don't let people into a list unless they are invited and vouched
for by another member as CF Guru does.
<p>Ideas anyone?
<br>Thanks for listening.
<br>- Michael Smith, TeraTech <A
HREF="http://www.cfconf.org/">http://www.cfconf.org/</A>
<br>
MDCFUG <A HREF="http://www.cfug-md.org/">http://www.cfug-md.org/</A>
<br>
<p>Jim McAtee wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Yep. There's actually far less static on this
list. A lot of people have
<br>stopped responding to help requests on the cf-talk list altogether.
Make
<br>the mistake of posting a question in the evening and it's very likely
to
<br>go unanswered, as the next day's list traffic burries it. I think
at
<br>least one or two more CF lists would be welcome. To say I just
glance at
<br>the list subjects now would be a gross understatement. Every
once in a
<br>while something may catch my eye and I'll respond.
<p>Seeing the discussions yesterday about hardware system tuning, I think
a
<br>good addition would be a cf-admin list for system administration and
<br>server issues. Most people on the cf-talk list are programmers,
so they
<br>probably have little interest in those threads. Similar topics
relevant
<br>to an administration list are system security, mail server software,
web
<br>log analyzers, system monitoring tools, DNS issues, all of which
<br>invariably make it (with or without the little OT:) onto the main list.
<p>Jim
<p>-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Judith Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<br>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<br>Date: Thursday, July 27, 2000 11:26 AM
<br>Subject: Re: Comma Problem
<p>>Adam's got a point, guys. Community is for off-topic questions for
the
<br>>community. CF-Talk is usually the place for technical questions. I've
<br>>noticed more and more people posting tech questions to this list.
Do
<br>people
<br>>find it easier to use this list than CF-Talk?
<br>>
<br>>Judith Dinowitz
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