> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warrick, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 12:51
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Allaire Partners (was ColdFusion Newsgroup)
>
>
> [snip]
> Allaire is already making out big time from the developers
> supporting their product. If Allaire gave a crap about their
> developers, they would make the point of entry for us FREE. It
> costs them next to NOTHING to accept a developer's contact
> information and have that info available on their site.
If every company gave this kind of listing away free, we would never be able
to sort through the noise. Every software company I have dealt with has
required a fee for becoming a listed "partner." This is to protect them,
the developers and the consumer.
If any hack off the street could be listed as an Allaire partner, then every
script kiddie out there who decides to learn Cold Fusion could get listed
and have the initial appearance of legitamacy. Once they screw a few
clients over, then the entire list loses legitamacy because of that. That
isn't fair to the company or the true developers because it looks like the
list contains nothing but script kiddies. Do not underestimate the power of
word of mouth.
By setting a minimum bar, however low, gives the list added legitamacy.
Even if skills are not required to meet this bar.
And on top of all of this, consultin partners can get the NFR software. I
know of no companies that allow NFR software to be distributed without a
cost. Compared to the Autodesk line (AutoCAD, etc) the $500 that Allaire
asks is a steal.
Russel
>
> ---mark
>
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David E. Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:13 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Allaire Partners (was ColdFusion Newsgroup)
> >
> >
> > This is not true. You can become a consulting partner for $500
> > or so. That
> > gets you Not For Resale versions of everything from CF to JRUN for all
> > platforms. That is a very low entry point IMHO.
> >
> > DC
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Warrick, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:43
> > Subject: RE: ColdFusion Newsgroup
> >
> >
> > > Allaire caters to big businesses. That is evident by the high sticker
> > price of being a partner with them. They don't offer any sort of
> > partnerships with individual developers (last time I checked).
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Mark Warrick
> > > Phone: (714) 547-5386
> > > Fax: (714) 972-2181
> > > Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Personal URL: http://www.warrick.net
> > > Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Business URL: http://www.fusioneers.com
> > > ICQ: 346566
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 9:40 PM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: Re: ColdFusion Newsgroup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nice point, but ????????????????????????????????????????????
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Warrick, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > I think the fact that Allaire doesn't do this is a perfect
> > > > example of how
> > > > they treat individual developers.
> > > > >
> > > > > And that's WHY this list exists, and it's why my business
> > > > exists as well!
> > > > >
> > > > > ---mark
> > > > >
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Mark Warrick
> > > > > Phone: (714) 547-5386
> > > > > Fax: (714) 972-2181
> > > > > Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Personal URL: http://www.warrick.net
> > > > > Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Business URL: http://www.fusioneers.com
> > > > > ICQ: 346566
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 5:36 PM
> > > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > > Subject: ColdFusion Newsgroup
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am NOT knock what we (coldfusion developers) have
> with this
> > > > > > list, and
> > > > > > group BUT what and why doesn't someone or Allaire start
> > > > something in the
> > > > > > regular newsgroups? This is somewhat baffling at times,
> > > > the have a
> > > > > > dynamite product line, the forums on Allaire are OK kinda
> > > > slow, but Ok.
> > > > > > I mean why not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Michael
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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