> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warrick, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 14:44
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Allaire Partners (was ColdFusion Newsgroup)
>
>
> I'm not talking about software. I'm talking about a listing.
Then you are right and the partnership is complete worthless. That is why
the NFR software is a benefit. It would be the only reason for me to
partner with Allaire.
>
> And I frankly don't believe that a $500 fee is going to get rid
> of the bad apples. Think of all the legitimate businesses out
> there who are not members of the Better Business Bureau? Does
> that make them any less legitimate just because some 3rd party
> doesn't have them in their database? I think not.
No, but the BBB and Allaire are different. The BBB is a not for profit
organization concerned with good business practices. Allaire is a for
profit software company worried about seeling more copies of thier software.
The $500 is just another step narrow down the number of NFR copies of the
software out on the market. If you ask Allaire, they probably will say
something similar but couched in business doublespeak.
>
> The difference though between Allaire's list and the Better
> Business Bureau is that the BBB adds VALUE to the listing by
> acting as a 3rd party intermediary. I don't expect Allaire to
> get into anything like that! That's not their business.
No, providing software is Allaire's business. This is like the MSDN. You
can get a free membership, but it just gives you access to what you could
access anyway. The paid MSDN memberships get you the software and at higher
levels the listing. Pertnering with a software company is usually used to
get the software, not the listing.
>
> Think about Yahoo. Any schmuck can post a link to their site on
> Yahoo for free. Does that mean they are legit? I don't think so.
Again, you are comparing apples and oranges here. Yahoo's business model is
based upon the web site and the listings. Allaire's business model is about
the software.
>
> I'm not talking about Allaire vouching for developers - they've
> got a certification program for that. I'm just talking about a
> simple list of developers which can be searched geographically.
> Why should I have to pay a recruiter to find someone 2 blocks
> from me when I COULD theoretically go to Allaire and say "Hey
> Allaire - who develops with your software in my area?"
Because Allaire is a software company, not a recruiting company. That isn't
what they are concerned with. They want to get good software out and let
the community concern itself with who is using it. Listing 10,000
developers won't add anything to thier bottom line. Listing 10,000
companies using the Cold Fusion and JRun servers does.
>
> And that's one of the reasons why I started Fusioneers.com.
>
> ANYONE can go to the Fusioneers.com web site and search for a
> developer in their area. And any ColdFusion developer can list
> themselves for FREE.
OK, how many script kiddies do you have listed on there? Do you have a
feedback or rating method to separate the lambs from the rams? If so, then
good for you. That makes your site a step above other lists.
If I were to partner with Allaire, I wouldn't care about a listing as a
developer. I'd want the software. And I think I speak for many here as
well when I say that.
>
> ---mark
>
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