Kevin -
completely agree with you.
I went through a business major in college (finance). Since I've spent most
of my computer career in large firms, this was very valuable in letting me
talk with Users and not sound like an idiot. (They can't speak IT, so I had
to speak Business.) In the ol' days, they didn't have CIS majors -- the
computing power was still in the hands of the CS/EE folks. <sigh>
Ben
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carlson, Kevin [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 11:20 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: For those of you without a CS Degree
>
> Actually, I think a CS degree would be inappropriate for most CF
> development
> work. I have a business degree in Computer Information Systems, which I
> believe is more valuable for developing the majority of web-based
> applications. Here are some general impressions I recall among various
> curriculums (when I was in college, anyway ...):
>
> CS: 3 calculus courses, 3 physics courses, compiler design theory
>
> CIS: C, COBOL, Algebra, Discrete Math, Public Speaking, Systems Analysis,
> Systems Design, Database design, Organizational behavior
>
> EE: Fortran
>
> Of course, there are many more differences, and things have certainly
> changed somewhat since I was in college (although Hey! I'm not that old
> ...)
> but my overall sense is this:
>
> CS is more geared to the embedded-logic crowd - CS folks often work with
> Electrical Engineers on such projects. No systems analysis or design
> classes required. In other words, not end-user oriented. I'm sure many
> CS
> folks have such skills, but they weren't provided by the required
> coursework.
>
> CIS is geared towards business application developers, who will probably
> never need calculus to do their work. The ability to think in terms of
> large-scale, interconnected applications is emphasized. Also emphasized
> is
> the ability to work closely with users, usually across multiple groups,
> each
> with their own agenda (sound familiar?)
>
> Overall, I think that anyone who actually enjoyed doing algebra story
> problems has a good chance at becoming a good programmer/developer. For
> many people, it's just overkill to get a CS degree, IMHO.
>
> Regards,
> Kevin
>
> > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:53:39 -0700
> > From: Jeffry Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: For those of you without a CS Degree
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > For those of you who are doing programming-type stuff without a CS
> > degree. How did you learn programming logic? (Or did you?) I just
> can't
> >
> > imagine doing a good job without knowing what I know. I've seen so much
>
> > bad code.
> >
> > To everyone else, please watch your message quoting. It's getting
> hard
> > to separate the new posts from the old posts in the digest. There is no
>
> > need to quote the last seventeen messages in a thread. Mabye it's just
> > me.
> >
> > |
> > | -<erki>-
> > |
> >
>
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