hmm degrees from Uk universities are much more specialised than US ones
*grin*
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> From: Todd Ashworth
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 9:16 pm
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: For those of you without a CS Degree
>
> | I did not go to college (mainly because i couldn't afford it) and yet i
> | still got a good job in web development. so why do so many companies
> require
> | such degrees? I find upsetting when you get turned down for another
> | candidate that has a CS degree, but yet you have more experience. I have
> | seen companies turn people away before even speaking with them just
> because
> | they don't have a degree of any sort. Some of the best programmers that
> i
> | know never even went to college. One day they just picked up a book and
> | started reading and applying what they learn from that. what honestly,
> is
> | the difference from; going to school for 4 years wasting a lot of money,
> or
> | picking up a few books from Barnes and noble or the local university
> book
> | store and learning on your own? a piece of paper that says HERE YOU HAVE
> | COMPLETED YOUR CS DEGREE. I have learned more on my own in the last 6
> | months than a friend of mine in Spokane, WA. has from Gonzaga
> University.
> | and he is going for his CS Degree. By the time he is done i will have 5
> -
> 6
> | years of work experience and he will be stuck looking for one of those
> entry
> | level jobs because he wasted what time he could have used to learn more
> (and
> | probably faster), than sitting in class for 4 years to get that special
> | piece of paper.
>
> ooook .. here we go. This is going to be disjointed because I am being
> constatntly interrupted at work, but here goes ..
>
> Having a 4 year college degree means more than just being able to say you
> 'learned real good' how to do what your degree is in. Haven't you ever
> wondered why it takes 4 years to get that degree? When you go to college,
> at least 1/2 of the classes you take have nothing to do with your chosen
> field of study. You take things like Philosophy, Religion, Sociology,
> Psychology, Biology, Public Speaking, Accounting, English, Technical
> Writing, Economics .. the list goes on. Now .. you go to B&N and grab a
> book on each of those subjects and read through them and I bet it will
> take
> quite a while. These courses make the student a more well rounded
> individual. They promote new ways of thinking and new ways of
> understanding. They make the student a little knowledgeable in a wide
> area
> of subjects. They really change your perspective on a lot of things at an
> age when people are rather impressionable. I'm sure you can see why
> companies would find this type of education desirable .. especially for
> the
> higher paying jobs and management positions.
>
> Then, there are the classes that have to do with the degree you are
> persuing. Sure, I can run down to B&N and pick up Ben Forta's CFWACK and
> read through it and start doing web sites in CF in no time flat .. but
> that's just one language .. and a very easy language at that. In college
> you usually get C++, VB/Java, COBOL, SQL, Database Design, Programming
> Login, Systems Analysis and Design, etc etc. That's quite a lot of
> learning. If you ever want any type of high dollar project management
> position, you will need to know a *lot* more than just how to grind out
> some
> code. In short, you don't get to be Dave Watts overnight ;)
>
> OK .. I've been interrupted too much and am just going off on tangent left
> and right, so I'm going to end my babbling here. :)
>
> Todd Ashworth --
> Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
> Network Administrator
>
> Saber Corporation
> 314 Oakland Ave.
> Rock Hill, SC 29730
> (803) 327-0137 [111]
>
>
>
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