----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:57 AM
Subject: RE: Man contracts Foot And Mouth Disease!
> True, but again that decision lies primarily with MAFF. I also read that
> due to EU quota evaluations (or something like that) there was a lot of
> 'illegal' movement of animals around the country at the time to bump up
> headcounts on farms which helped to spread the virus.
Don't get me wrong - I am not defending the farmers, there is little doubt
in my mind that the actions of some of them probably made the situation
worse.
(I just spell checked this and I had made a typo that prompted me to replace
"defending" with "deep ending", good thing I didn't just hit replace without
checking as I am certainly not "deep ending the farmers...)
> I think this whole crisis will result in a complete re-evaluation of
> farming in the UK. Currently it appears to have higher clout than Tourism,
> when in fact, Tourism provides a far more significant income. This was a
> financial crisis and as such it should be looked at in a wholey financial
> way. In which Farmers 0 Tourism 100.
Agreed, tourism is not given the importance it deserves in many instances.
> An interesting side-note on subsidies is the World Trade Organisations
> take on these. I think they are taking the stance that these are
> effectively illegal. I think Argentina is particularly unhappy, because in
> principal they would be able to compete in the Beef trade if it wasn't for
> the subsidies. We shall see where this all goes.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Putterill [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 25 April 2001 11:43
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Man contracts Foot And Mouth Disease!
>
> I agree with much of what was said but the continuing will they/won't they
> about vaccination has been really unhelpful, and the failure to ban
> livestock movements for 4 days after the first confirmed outbreak was
> unforgivable.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:00 AM
> Subject: RE: Man contracts Foot And Mouth Disease!
>
>
> > I would disagree here. The government has specifically listened to the
> > farmers which I think is where they whent wrong.
> >
> > Hind sight is a wonderful thing, but FMD could easily have been
> > erradicated with mass vacciniation programmes. The larger farms did not
> > want this as this would destroy their export market of around
�600Million
> > a year (figure is incorrect but around that level).
> >
> > You also have to consider that farmers get market value compensation for
> > any animals destroyed so there are some elements that were happy to have
> > their animals destroyed (Farming is not as financially rewarding as it
> > used to be and many farms were close to the brink of financial
collapse).
> >
> > So the government let the MAFF (which mainly represents large farms)
> > decide the course of action. To blame the governement (and I can't see
> how
> > you could blame any government when it handed the handling of this
> > emergency) is a bit of a poor excuse.
> >
> > There are many issues here. Farming is a government subsidised industry.
> > Through taxation, each person in the UK subsidises the farm industry
> > indirectly. While this is still the case and the true cost of farm
> produce
> > is not reflected then this will always be a problem.
> >
> > I am sure that had the UK declared that we will not destroy any animals,
> > but innoculate, and there will be no compensation (why should there be?)
> > then you would have had stronger support from the MAFF for this idea.
> >
> > You should also ask why farmers had no insurance against this type of
> > thing? Because in such an event they would be compensated.
> >
> > What this obscures is that the UK gets far more income from Tourism than
> > farming. This crisis has literally obliterated that income. This is far
> > more significant.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wayne Putterill [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 25 April 2001 10:01
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Man contracts Foot And Mouth Disease!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ang�l Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:46 PM
> > Subject: RE: Man contracts Foot And Mouth Disease!
> >
> >
> > > So what would you have done differently?
> > >
> > > -Gel
> > > *wry smile*
> >
> > <climbs on soapbox>
> > Talked to the Farmers! The current government we have seems to think
that
> > discussion is a sin of some type...
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >
> > > Mind you the way the government has handled it is completely
> incompetent
> > as
> > > usual...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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