At 07:54 AM 5/24/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>Do you really think you're employees would tell you "Hey Jim, I hate it
>here." I know I'd never say that to any of my previous employers.

I have a friend who did something like this recently. He's a really nice 
guy but he clearly has experience that his coworkers don't share. That 
apparently intimidates them. Some of his coworkers have told him that the 
amount of knowledge that he has is scary. He is friends with almost 
everyone at his last company but he doesn't have any friends where he works 
now. His manager asked him recently how he liked the company and I think he 
handled it pretty well. He said "I really don't feel like I'm fitting in 
very well and I don't know what I can do to change that." His manager 
quickly changed the subject, which was pretty much an acknowledgement of 
the problem. So maybe it isn't fixable, but his manager is definitely aware 
of the problem.

Since then, he has been in on every job interview for someone in his 
department. Granted, he's probably the most qualified to judge someone's 
technical abilities, but I think that's also to make him feel like they are 
trying to hire some people more like him. At least it shows some effort on 
the company's part to alleviate a problem that is only their problem if it 
makes him leave.

So I wouldn't say "I hate it here" but I've definitely worked for some 
companies that deserved that. I did manage to mention some extremely bad 
problems to my manager at one job and when they didn't get fixed, the 
entire rest of the staff gathered together and went over my manager's head. 
The problem was eliminated and my manager behaved in a way that resulted in 
her removal as well. Sometimes complaining works.


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