Adam, you'll love this. <g>

Michael is really busy tonight with lists and such (and publishing FA), and
can't respond personally. But he wanted you to know that he agrees with you
on this. If some guy gets in your face and starts running his mouth,
eventually it gets to the point where the person who is the receiver of this
verbal diarrhea can say, "Step off or I'm going to kick your ass," or just
kick his ass. Some people just have to have it.

This guy who followed us two blocks, got out of this car and started yelling
and cursing and saying, "How can you drive like that? You have kids," and
then started cursing in front of the kids, got Michael to the point where he
was ready (bad back and all) to kick his ass.

Michael is a calm, collected person, but sometimes people just get to a
point where they have to have their ass kicked. And he has kicked asses in
the past. Hell, he has been kicked out of yeshiva for kicking classes'
asses. : )

Really, sometimes people just need it. <g> One on one, hand to hand, laying
the "smackdown" on someone -- you know.

Now that was Michael having his say. I will revert to being Judith.
 ----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Phillip Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: Road Rage Hell


> > Um ... whatever happened to being able to speak your mind without having
> > someone beat your butt over it?  Just because I have a few choice words
> for
> > you, that does not give you the right to smack me upside the head.
>
> I don't know about the rest of the country, but here in Georgia we call
> these "fighting words," and they are legal grounds for engaging in
physical
> combat.  Fighting words, or even yelling at someone for that matter, are
> considered assault under the law in Georgia.  It is generally recognized
in
> the law that men should be able to save face by showing an aggressor the
> business end of an iron fist.
>
> This is one of the very highest forms of civility in society, as it makes
us
> think twice about what we say and why, and promotes general courtesy
between
> civilized men.  If a weaker man is bullied into fighting, then the bully
is
> turned out and shunned or put in his place.  If the weaker man runs his
> mouth to start things off, then he gets what he gets, and that's that.
>
> > Don't
> > try to make that sound like it was Ben's fault.  The other guy didn't
> > retaliate in kind, he escalated the confrontation .. that's just not
> > excusable.
>
> I wasn't there, but if Ben started it with his mouth and the other guy
ended
> it with his fists, knees, and feet -- one-on-one, and without a weapon
other
> than his body -- then that's that, pal.  End of story, and learn your
lesson
> quick so there isn't a next time.
>
> > Of course, next time you say something someone doesn't like, I guess
it's
> ok
> > if they track you down and pelt you to death with muffins ... seeing as
> how
> > you asked for it and all by daring to argue with them ..
> >
> > Todd
>
> You got _THAT_ right, pal.  Anytime, anywhere someone has a beef with me
for
> any reason, I'm ready to hear him out and either clear up the
> misunderstanding, apologize if I was wrong, or go to absolute out-and-out
> WAR the old fashioned way.  I'm so sick and #$*^%%^ tired of these whimpy
> little "I'll have a half-caf decaf mocha with Ceylonese cinnamon and extra
> foam" monthly facial dermabrasion and mud pack so-called "men" that I
could
> vomit!  I say things plainly and honestly, I stand by my words, and I'm
not
> afraid of getting bloody in the process.  Any other men out there live the
> same way?  If so, then you have my respect.  Those of you who truly "get"
> what I'm talking about will find such respect of value.
>
> On the O'Reilly Factor the other night, he mentioned that people are
afraid
> to take a moral stance anymore.  Well I'm not.  By God, I'm not.  I stand
> against the utter immorality of cowardice in men, and I challenge all men
to
> get tough with themselves and the other men around them.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Adam Phillip Churvis
> Advanced Certified ColdFusion Developer
> Productivity Enhancement, Inc.
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