Larry,

This provides some interesting facts around my belief that US has been
mistreating prisoners for years.  The good news about the Iraqi prisoner
scandal is that perhaps it will bring to light long-time practices and create
a solid dialogue.  For example, is it all right to keep someone awake for days
in order to gain information that might save thousands of lives?  How about
making hold uncomfortable positions for long, painful time?  Is it clearly
that no mistreatment is acceptable for any reason or is the line somewhere
else.

It was easy for us to take the highroad when there were not USA lives on the
line.  How about now when these forms of torture could save lives?

This is NOT unique to the US, but is still a world-wide issue.  The Geneva
conventions never produced the dialogue necessary for ordinary people to gain
consensus and clearly the UN or any other international organization  never
have any teeth for enforcement.

Andy

   during that time Canada and Italy had scandals involving the torture
  and death of detainees. It resulted in the 1st Canadian Airborne
  Regiment being disbanded in shame, and the Italians reorganizing
  their special forces. Interestingly enough, both units involved went
  through training with the American Special Forces in Georgia and
  Kentucky. In the Crown commission report on the 1st CAR, the American
  military was criticized for encouraging such behavior.
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