Andy

From my very limited understanding, the Iraqis were carded to death.
They had to have several different ID's for a variety of purposes,
ie., ration cards, drivers lisc. etc.

I am not sure how the military handles that one. we were effectively
told to assume that any doubtful cases were military until shown
otherwise. Again though I was not in the US military but the
Canadian, and you know what they say about us Canadians always being
the nice guys. ;) obviously they never met me.

There are going to be exceptions. However I agree with you about the
Geneva Conventions, its time for an update. that was part of the
purpose for the international criminal courts. But you know how far
that has gone.

What the Stanford Experiment and the current Iraqi scandal has shown
is that well trained and well led prison guards who have clear orders
as to the treatment of prisoners are by far less likely to abuse
prisoners. Personally I think that everyone from the general in
charge of the prison, the general who was brought in from Gitmo to
set up the interrogation, on down to the privates who violated those
prisoners should be brought up on courts marshal charges, and if
found guilty, serve the maximum sentence in hard time then cashiered.

larry

>Larry,
>
>OK, what if one party doesn't provide an identity cards?  Problem with much of
>the Geneva convention is not the moral principles they espouse, but some of
>the then norms of warfare which don't seem to apply now.  It gives those who
>wish to find ways around rules the excuses they need.  We need as a country to
>have this moral discussion so that we all accept the risk - additional deaths
>will occur - for the rewards - continuation of our current freedoms.
>
>As far as the ticking time bomb argument, I find this a very dangerous
>perspective.   It provides those looking for information an almost unlimited
>power, and as the Stanford study and the Iraqi prison scandal have shown,
>power corrupts.
>
>Andy
>
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>  Each Party to a conflict is required to furnish the persons under its
>jurisdiction who are liable to become prisoners of war, with an
>identity card showing the owner's surname, first names, rank, army,
>regimental, personal or serial number or equivalent information, and
>date of birth.
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