It IS the same, except that you can't hide it.  Thats the only difference.  Does that mean its ok to discriminate against homosexuals?
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Monique Boea
  To: CF-Community
  Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 4:28 AM
  Subject: RE: Conversation Topic - Abortion

  Larry, you guys are all of a sudden bringing up the race issue because you
  now know that i am black.

  The gay issue is not the same.

  I can't hide my race. I was born black and frankly didn't ask to come here
  to help build a country that my people still don't have equal access to.
  We weren't even considered human beings in this country.

  (Let's not go there, please)

  A gay white man, steps out of his front door and no one may know he is gay
  (unless he flaunts it of course).
  He can go to an interview and no one will know he is gay. He can apply for
  housing and no one will know he is gay.

  I cannot hide the fact that I am black...this is not the same issue.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 5:36 PM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: Re: Conversation Topic - Abortion

  >I should have said anti same-sex marriage
  >

  Again it really depends on how you word the questions. If the pollster has
  an agenda, then the poll invariably reflects their agenda (either pro or
  anti). However when a neutral party does the poll and uses a neutrally
  worded question, the percentages are about 65% in favour of gay marriage of
  some sort.

  Monique, are you in favour of restricting the civil rights of a group based
  on a biological difference, be it colour or a genetic difference?

  This is not a loaded question, this issue has been debated quite a few times
  before on the list.

  Do a search on what I've found about the physiological basis of
  homosexuality. Briefly put when I did a PubMed search on the physiological
  basis of homosexuality I found over 600 articles from peer reviewed
  scientific journals that examined the issue. The vast majority (over 85% of
  the articles) found very credible support to the hypothesis that
  homosexuality has a physiological basis.

  In other words a person cannot help being gay than you can help being a
  woman or black.

  Are you willing to deny equal protection under the law (which is guarenteed
  by the Constitution) due to a physiological difference?

  Think about it. Think about the implications of denying these individuals
  their civil rights on the basis of this difference.

  larry
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