> Powell retired from the military in 1993 well after
> the election.
Duh! That's what I said, he retired on Clintons watch.
> Talking about outrages, how about Bush being AWOL
> and getting away
> with it. Or his cocaine use or the several cases of
> his being busted
> for drunk driving.
Your throwing out rumors unrelated to the military.
Show me the proof.
>
> How about Bush's cuts in veteran's benefits.
>
> Try naming 4 general officers, not brigadiers, who
> spoke out against
> the Clinton administration. During Clinton's tenure,
> how many Chiefs
> of staff of the Pentagon like General Shalikashvilli
> spoke out against
> Bush's policies, at congressional committees while
> in still in
> uniform.
>
> But we should not be talking about the past, we
> ought to be talking
> about the current government policies. That is what
> the impending
> electionis about.
>
> As for the military's support of Clinton, according
> to the U of
> Michigan voting archive
> (http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/stpolisc.html)
> Clinton came very
> close to Dole fo rthe miltary vote. If they were so
> much against him
> then those number would have been very different.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0311.wallace-wells.html
Bill Clinton's presidency galvanized the base even
more strongly. "There was a lot of anger towards the
administration," said Wade Sanders, who served as
deputy assistant undersecretary of the Navy from '93
to '98. Sanders says that even to military
administration higher-ups like him, "it was clear that
with the exception of [defense secretary] Bill Perry,
nobody we dealt with understood the soldiers or were
interested in making the services work better--they
had fear of us, but no respect." The pattern of base
closings initiated during the Clinton administration
as part of the post-Cold War draw-down ended up
relocating much of the nation's fighting forces to the
South and the Southwest. This not only reinforced the
military's southern cast, but meant that the local
congressmen who would fight most strongly for the
people on the military bases were Republicans.
It was during the mid-1990s, sparked by the rather
overt and sometimes borderline disloyal antagonism
members of the officer corps showed for the
commander-in-chief, that clued-in academics and
journalists began to worry about the "civil-military
divide." Their thesis was that the nation's soldiers,
since Vietnam, had been drifting in a profoundly
right-wing direction, and now found themselves out of
step with the more liberal values of the rest of the
country. Thomas E. Ricks, a Washington Post reporter
then with The Wall Street Journal, wrote a remarkable
journalistic account of this divide in The Atlantic
Monthly in '97, which found that soldiers tended to
find civilians undisciplined, immoral, unpatriotic,
and selfish. This divide, Ricks and others worried,
was leading to a military that was increasingly
unwieldy, and might grow impossible for civilians to
really control.
> Try using some facts instead of parroting right wing
> myths.
You're the one throwing out all the off topic lies
about Bush. Stay focused.
> larry
>
> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 16:23:39 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Did you forget about Colin Powell? He ended his
> career
> > on Clintons watch. Came right back when Bush was
> > elected.
> >
> > How about the outrage of Clinton burning the flag
> in
> > England during the Vietnam war? Remember gay's in
> the
> > Military? And he cut the pay and services so much
> many
> > were had too apply for food stamps.
> > You realy think he had military's support?
> >
> > -sm
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