> You mean stuff like beatings, lynchings and murders have
> not happened. So what do you call what happened to that
> gay student in Laramie Wyoming a couple of years ago,
> where he was tied to a barbed wire fencepost and
> beated until he died.

<snip>

To bring the subject home... I was talking with Tiff and she told me
this would be okay to share. Shortly before I met her in early 2001
she got an urgent phone call from an old girlfriend she knew in
high-school saying she was in trouble and desperately needed her help.
When she arrived at the bus station, her girlfriend's new skin-head
boyfriend proceeded to beat her near to death with a lead pipe. Why?
Because although the other girl was with him now and was okay because
she was being straight, Tiff was still a professed lesbian, so it was
okay to kill her. So as an individual I'm very aware of the
opportunities I have to be injured or worse for being who I am, and
very grateful that to date I haven't experienced it.

On a side note, in our expience being a bisexual male seems to be much
less acceptable to most folks than bisexual females. As best we can
tell this is largely because straight men tend to be homophobic but
still have lesbian fantasies while homophobia is much less pervasive
in women in our culture. There are all kinds of people in the
alternative world looking for "hot bi babes" - but bisexual men are
almost if not reviled. It's okay, Tiff and I are always "that nice
lesbian couple" anyway, because even with my head shaved, I'm usually
mistaken for a woman. We have no idea why -- Tiff says I'm not
affeminate at all. :) I must have been a woman in my past lives...
hmm... that's familiar... who was it on this list a while back who
mentioned my past life as the bearded lady? :)

> No what gays experience is not what blacks in the US have
> experienced. Slavery stopped 140 years ago

In the US... Although I'm sure you're aware, I find it apalling that
most people in our country think that the end of slavery in the US was
the end of slavery in the world. In many ways the new form of slavery
in parts of the eastern world is much worse than slavery in the US
ever was in the past.

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8/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-5780169-5138469?v=glance&s=books

This book has been on my list for a while... unfortunately I've not
made the time to read it yet.

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