I find the cases to be slightly isolated and not as a whole group of people.
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:24 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage
Isaac,
So sorry you went through that. What can I say, that was horrible.
Slavery as an institution ended in the 1860's in the US, officially
banned in the British North American colonies in the 1790's, and in
the empire itself around 1825. Brazil did not end slavery until the
1880's. Sudan still allows for slavery as does several other
countries. Periodically the local papers report on cases where a
domestic slave is imported into an embassy here in the DC region and
then manages to escape. The diplomat usually gets away without any
consequences.
larry
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 11:08:39 -0400, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You mean stuff like beatings, lynchings and murders have
> > not happened. So what do you call what happened to that
> > gay student in Laramie Wyoming a couple of years ago,
> > where he was tied to a barbed wire fencepost and
> > beated until he died.
>
> <snip>
>
> To bring the subject home... I was talking with Tiff and she told me
> this would be okay to share. Shortly before I met her in early 2001
> she got an urgent phone call from an old girlfriend she knew in
> high-school saying she was in trouble and desperately needed her help.
> When she arrived at the bus station, her girlfriend's new skin-head
> boyfriend proceeded to beat her near to death with a lead pipe. Why?
> Because although the other girl was with him now and was okay because
> she was being straight, Tiff was still a professed lesbian, so it was
> okay to kill her. So as an individual I'm very aware of the
> opportunities I have to be injured or worse for being who I am, and
> very grateful that to date I haven't experienced it.
>
> On a side note, in our expience being a bisexual male seems to be much
> less acceptable to most folks than bisexual females. As best we can
> tell this is largely because straight men tend to be homophobic but
> still have lesbian fantasies while homophobia is much less pervasive
> in women in our culture. There are all kinds of people in the
> alternative world looking for "hot bi babes" - but bisexual men are
> almost if not reviled. It's okay, Tiff and I are always "that nice
> lesbian couple" anyway, because even with my head shaved, I'm usually
> mistaken for a woman. We have no idea why -- Tiff says I'm not
> affeminate at all. :) I must have been a woman in my past lives...
> hmm... that's familiar... who was it on this list a while back who
> mentioned my past life as the bearded lady? :)
>
> > No what gays experience is not what blacks in the US have
> > experienced. Slavery stopped 140 years ago
>
> In the US... Although I'm sure you're aware, I find it apalling that
> most people in our country think that the end of slavery in the US was
> the end of slavery in the world. In many ways the new form of slavery
> in parts of the eastern world is much worse than slavery in the US
> ever was in the past.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0520224639/qid=109007702
> 8/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/002-5780169-5138469?v=glance&s=books
>
> This book has been on my list for a while... unfortunately I've not
> made the time to read it yet.
>
> s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117
>
> new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
>
> add features without fixtures with
> the onTap open source framework
> http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477&DE=1
> http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569&DE=1
>
>
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