This, plus last weeks events, actually brings up an interesting
question. If attitudinal or personality change does not last via
coercive methods (such as prison), then why do so many people oppose the
death penalty (besides moral convictions)? I'll use last week's
terrorist attack as an example: Nobody is talking about going over to
Afghanistan and bringing back Bin Laden, or terrorists in general, to
the US and having them stand trial. No, we're going over to take him,
and others, out. We're doing this because past attempts to catch him,
punish him, etc. have failed and now we're down to our last resort. And
we now understand that the normal means of coersion and reasoning just
don't work with people that are hell-bent on commiting crimes and acts
of terrorism. Aren't repeating criminals basically the same? Now, I know
what the terrorists have done is far worse than what any criminal in
this country has done. Even Ted Bundy or Charles Manson weren't that
bad. But doesn't it stand to reason that if a criminal, and I'm only
talking about the worse ones, should meet the same fate that hopefully
Bin Laden will face?
Is there any corellation here? Has anybody changed their stance on the
death penalty after the terrorist attacks?
Just wondering,
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 4:33 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Interesting punishment
Really? The paper I wrote had a longer effect. But then again they were
working with multiple events over time. I haven't seen that paper in
almost
8 years though.
At 04:26 PM 9/20/01, you wrote:
>Michael,
>
>Putting on my experimental psychologist hat here, any attitudinal or
>personality change via coercive methods do not last. One study I
remember
>that looked at it in depth found that attitude changes via sensory
>deprivation lasted only a few hours at the most. Even less given any
>exposure to other stimuli.
>
>larry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 4:11 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Interesting punishment
> >
> >
> > Actually, as a past student of psychology I'd say that
> > sensory deprivation
> > is an excellent form of punishment. Add to that a few very
> > nice 'features'
> > of sensory deprivation makes is even better. A person has a
> > deep seated
> > need for sensory input. If we don't have it, we will seek it to the
> > extreme. A person in a sensory deprivation situation (Reduced
> > Enviromental
> > Stimuli) will have an 'open' mind. If you tell them to "farm
> > the land and
> > not harm anyone" then they will pay their utmost attention to that
> > 'command' and after a little time it will be their primary
> > motivation. And
> > I'm not talking years. The average person can be days. Yes,
> > we're talking
> > natural brainwashing. Might not be something we want to do for noise
> > pollution but for murder or other offenses, hell yes.
> > Punishment and the
> > modification of the offender. If controlled and not abused.....
> >
> > At 04:00 PM 9/20/01, you wrote:
> > > From the Philadelphia Metro paper:
> > >
> > >"A young man convicted of disorderly conduct for blasting
> > his car stereo
> > >was sentenced to three hours of silence. Kenyata Reid, 22, served
the
> > >sentence this week, when a park ranger dropped him off more
> > than a mile
> > >inside a forested stretch of parkland in Painesville, Ohio."
> > >
> > >"Reid had gotten in hot water by blasting his car stereo in
> > front of a
> > >police officer. Municipal judge Michael Cicconetti offered Reid a
> > >choice: two days in jail or three hours alone in the woods."
> > >
> > >Maybe this is the punishment we should give to terrorists...
> > Then napalm
> > >the woods.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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