In this case, both are working pretty much within the system, but the system is WRONG. These 527's are ridiculous. Either legalize it, or don't! All this grey-area finance legislation is ridiculous.
Whereas Kerry's cronies have focused more on positives, Bush's have started a smear campaign....which turns off a lot of Americans. I think they are doin the Prez a disservice in his reelection bid.
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry C. Lyons
To: CF-Community
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: Another Bush campaign worker acknowleges links to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth
As much as there was with Henry II and the three knights. - ie oh who
will rid me of this troublesome priest. In other words it seems far
too convenient, people sit in on campaign meetings then go out and
meet with the Swift Boat Vets for truth. There is no "Official"
coordination.
larry
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:51:13 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yup. That is what the article says.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:29 AM
>
> And there was no coordination between the campaign and that 527 group?
>
> larry
>
> From this morning's Washington Post
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29821-2004Aug24.html
>
> Bush-Cheney Lawyer Advised Anti-Kerry Vets
>
> ...
> Benjamin L. Ginsberg, the chief outside counsel to the Bush campaign
> who also has advised Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, said in an
> interview: "I've done some work for them. . . . The law lets lawyers
> do that . . . and does not include lawyers among the coordinated
> political activities" that are prohibited by federal election law. He
> said two prominent Democratic lawyers are doing the same thing.
>
> Other election lawyers agreed that the fact that Ginsberg, who also
> was active in Bush's 2000 campaign, has been giving legal advice to
> Swift Boat Veterans for Truth does not necessarily violate campaign
> finance law prohibiting collusion between campaigns and independent
> groups.
>
> Asked about the Ginsberg matter Tuesday night, Bush campaign spokesman
> Steve Schmidt said: "There has been no coordination at any time
> between Bush-Cheney '04 and any 527 organization."
>
> ...
>
> The type of work Ginsberg has done has not been deemed improper by
> Kerry's campaign.
>
> Ginsberg said that Joseph Sandler is a lawyer for both the Democratic
> National Committee and for the independent group MoveOn.org, which has
> run advertisements attacking Bush.
> ...
>
> In the interview, he said he did not participate in strategy planning
> or in the development of messages, and did not discuss Bush campaign
> activities with the Swift boat veterans, or vice versa. His
> relationship to the Swift boat group was first reported by the
> Associated Press.
>
> On Saturday, the Bush campaign dismissed from its veterans steering
> committee a volunteer and Vietnam veteran, retired Col. Kenneth
> Cordier, who appeared in a Swift boat veterans ad. The campaign said
> Cordier had not previously disclosed his participation with the Swift
> boat group.
>
> Don Simon, an election-law expert with the campaign finance watchdog
> group Democracy 21, said Ginsberg's dual role "is not per se
> coordination" between the Bush campaign and the veterans group. That
> would occur only if Ginsberg has been transferring information between
> the two -- a question that likely would not be resolved before the
> election even if the FEC chooses to investigate the matter.
> ...
> Larry Noble, who runs the Center for Responsive Politics watchdog
> group, said the Ginsberg situation is not by itself improper, but
> "when you're looking at common lawyers, it adds another level to it."
>
>
>
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