how?
Larry, fundamental problem here is campaign finance law. Each side is using
these "independent" groups to perform their dirty work for them so they can
accuse the other of running an "attack" campaign.
And let's face it, Kerry raised this problem for himself by focusing his
entire campaign on something that happened 30 years ago that has no barring on
today's issues. Kerry clearly comported himself well. Move on.
It is time for both campaigns to focus on how to fix today's problems. So
far, I am terribly unimpressed with the way both candidates have campaigned.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:06 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Another Bush campaign worker acknowleges links to Swift Boat
Veterans for Truth
As much as there was with Henry II and the three knights. - ie oh who
will rid me of this troublesome priest. In other words it seems far
too convenient, people sit in on campaign meetings then go out and
meet with the Swift Boat Vets for truth. There is no "Official"
coordination.
larry
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:51:13 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yup. That is what the article says.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:29 AM
>
> And there was no coordination between the campaign and that 527 group?
>
> larry
>
> From this morning's Washington Post
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29821-2004Aug24.html
>
> Bush-Cheney Lawyer Advised Anti-Kerry Vets
>
> ...
> Benjamin L. Ginsberg, the chief outside counsel to the Bush campaign
> who also has advised Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, said in an
> interview: "I've done some work for them. . . . The law lets lawyers
> do that . . . and does not include lawyers among the coordinated
> political activities" that are prohibited by federal election law. He
> said two prominent Democratic lawyers are doing the same thing.
>
> Other election lawyers agreed that the fact that Ginsberg, who also
> was active in Bush's 2000 campaign, has been giving legal advice to
> Swift Boat Veterans for Truth does not necessarily violate campaign
> finance law prohibiting collusion between campaigns and independent
> groups.
>
> Asked about the Ginsberg matter Tuesday night, Bush campaign spokesman
> Steve Schmidt said: "There has been no coordination at any time
> between Bush-Cheney '04 and any 527 organization."
>
> ...
>
> The type of work Ginsberg has done has not been deemed improper by
> Kerry's campaign.
>
> Ginsberg said that Joseph Sandler is a lawyer for both the Democratic
> National Committee and for the independent group MoveOn.org, which has
> run advertisements attacking Bush.
> ...
>
> In the interview, he said he did not participate in strategy planning
> or in the development of messages, and did not discuss Bush campaign
> activities with the Swift boat veterans, or vice versa. His
> relationship to the Swift boat group was first reported by the
> Associated Press.
>
> On Saturday, the Bush campaign dismissed from its veterans steering
> committee a volunteer and Vietnam veteran, retired Col. Kenneth
> Cordier, who appeared in a Swift boat veterans ad. The campaign said
> Cordier had not previously disclosed his participation with the Swift
> boat group.
>
> Don Simon, an election-law expert with the campaign finance watchdog
> group Democracy 21, said Ginsberg's dual role "is not per se
> coordination" between the Bush campaign and the veterans group. That
> would occur only if Ginsberg has been transferring information between
> the two -- a question that likely would not be resolved before the
> election even if the FEC chooses to investigate the matter.
> ...
> Larry Noble, who runs the Center for Responsive Politics watchdog
> group, said the Ginsberg situation is not by itself improper, but
> "when you're looking at common lawyers, it adds another level to it."
>
>
>
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