3 is possibly true, but how would he have known either way? he did not
have the federal government at his disposal, is all I am saying. And
remember, this was not long after My Lai I think, which would have
made such allegations seem very credible.

Dana 


On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:22:57 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually Dana,
> 
> I don't even remember how this came to be a topic of discussion.  I just got
> caught up in the double standard.
> 
> It is only important as an indicator of Kerry's character if:
> 1.  He is denying he said that
> 2.  He lied in what he said
> 3.  He was wrong in what he said because he did not research the statements
> 
> Outside of that, I could care less.  And at this point, I don't see any of
> 1-3 being true.
> 
> Andy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 6:10 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Kerry's Testimony
> 
> what if he did believe it? Don't you think that this would be
> something it was important to bring to people's attention?
> 
> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 18:03:00 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dana:
> > I have no probably holding Bush responsible.  I also hold Kerry
> responsible.
> > No excuses.  If he didn't believe it, he shouldn't have said it.  If he
> did
> > believe it, then he should be willing to stand buy it.
> >
> > Andy
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 4:57 PM
> >  To: CF-Community
> >  Subject: Re: Kerry's Testimony
> >
> >  the difference, Andy, is that Bush was president and therefore was
> >  responsible for the corporate culture of the CIA in his
> >  administration. The buck stops here and all that. Kerry was a private
> >  citizen at the time of his testimony and merely reported what he had
> >  been told.
> >
> >  Dana
> >
> >  On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:29:44 -0500, Andy Ousterhout
> >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  > Give that man a silver dollar!  If one wishes to hold Bush responsible
> for
> >  > what he read and did, then the same should be applied to Kerry.  Saying
> it
> >  > is
> >  > not Kerry's responsibility because a) he didn't write it and b) it was
> >  > congress' job to decide what is truth is working hard to avoid the
> realty
> > of
> >  > the man.
> >  >
> >  > Andy
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >   -----Original Message-----
> >  >   From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  >   Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 2:18 PM
> >  >   To: CF-Community
> >  >   Subject: Re: Kerry's Testimony
> >  >
> >  >   Is that a joke?  Isn't that exactly what happened with the State of
> the
> >  > Union speech and all the other rhetoric involving WMDs in Iraq?
> >  >     ----- Original Message -----
> >  >     From: Andy Ousterhout
> >  >     To: CF-Community
> >  >     Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 3:12 PM
> >  >     Subject: RE: Kerry's Testimony
> >  >
> >  >     With your logic, a president could read a report from someone to
> the
> >  > public and not
> >  >     be held responsible for it.
> 
> 

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