ah.. why not? We could also repeal that pesky law about cigarette marketing, too.
Dana On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:29:09 -0000, Wayne Putterill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we are approaching this from a different mindset, and maybe we > should agree to disagree :) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 21 November 2004 18:44 > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: now the truly important news > > Advertising bans generally seem reactive and superficial to me. > > From what I've seen other marketing bans have done little to affect the > products. Have the bans on cigarette or alcohol advertising actually done > anything to stem the tide of underage use of the products? > > I agree fully that we're a marketing and entertainment-based culture (the > news media's shift to an "edutainment" platform is the most frustrating > example of this to me). However I still very little wrong with McDonald's > (or most) advertising in and of itself. > > McDonald's is a family restaurant - they market to kids simply because they > geared to kids. I don't consider it McDonald's "fault" that my son wants to > go there every day - however I definitely consider it my responsibility not > to let him and to teach him moderation. > > As for the "Monster Burger" - I still have no idea what's inherently wrong > with that from a marketing perspective. If the public wants them it will > become a success, if not it will fail. You said it yourself "does anybody > really think that the Monster Burger is a good idea...?" The public makes > up their minds and the product succeeds or fails. > > The underlying idea that businesses are out there "trying to make us fat" is > just ridiculous. They are catering (some say pandering) to us - it's soley > our responsibility to manage our diet. The only business conspiracy is to > sell more product. > > When the public demands healthy food (or food catering to latest stupid diet > fad) the industry responds. You can eat healthy at McDonald's today (both > kids and adults) but the products simply don't sell nearly as well. > > I agree with informational measures (restaurants should have to provide > nutritional information). In short I believe that the consumer should have > all of the information needed to make an informed decision available but > nothing should be done to legislate that decision. > > Jim Davis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 8:10 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: now the truly important news > > I was using the scene to illustrate the power of marketing these days, I > realise that in the US capitalism is next to godliness but it's got to the > point where corporations have the power to make the consumers want their > products even if they will kill them in the long term. I mean does anybody > really think that the Monster Burger is a good idea for anyone to eat? > (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/11/18/wburg18.xml > ) > > In the UK there are plans to stop all junk food being advertised before 9pm > at night, which I think is an excellent idea. Kids are far too easily > influenced and once they have bought into the lie the companies have them > for life. > > BTW, as a Buddhist I'm an atheist too :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20 November 2004 21:44 > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: now the truly important news > > Honestly I see nothing wrong with children recognizing Ronald more than > Jesus. Are we up because the Christian church have worse marketing than > McDonalds (as an atheist I actually consider both entities business > organizations)? > > Macdonald's job, as a business, is to provide a service people want. It's > the consumer's job to regulate their usage of that service. > > You can make an argument if they are misleading people, but I don't see how > they have. > > Jim Davis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 11:37 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: now the truly important news > > I agree with most of what you say, but McDonalds and the like have to take > some responsibility for causing people to want their food through their > marketing - particularly when it's aimed at kids. There is a very telling > scene in Supersize me where children are shown pictures and asked if they > know who the person is, they failed to identify Jesus but all recognised > Ronald McDonald immediately. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:137322 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
