yes, i agree. however, this war is not about that is it? otherwise why not
step in in 1998?


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 November 2001 16:37
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: How long?


Amnesty International Reports have amply documented quite a few
crucifixions. Also a common punishment has been to bury transgressor alive
and then drive tanks and other heavy vehicles over the burial spot. The
Taleban has also committed quite a few massacres of civilians and have
engaged in ethnic cleansing of places in Northern Afghanistan, for instance
this report back in 1998:
http://web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/Index/ASA110081998?OpenDocument&of=COUNTRIES\A
FGHANISTAN, or this one from last January:
http://web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/Index/ASA110012001?OpenDocument&of=COUNTRIES\A
FGHANISTAN.

does it matter how they die? The fact is that the Taleban has engaged in
genocide.

larry

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary P. McNeel, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:32 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: How long?
>
>
> How do you know they didn't crucify people? Maybe they just
> take them out
> back and shoot them in the head. No, these people are just
> another flavor of
> what is there now, only less organized and probably more lethal.
>
> -Gary
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:40 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: How long?
> >
> >
> > Given Rabanni's record of the 90's not much. But they did
> not require the
> > burkas on all women, nor did they crucify people who disagreed
> > with them. I
> > am hoping that a very wide coalition government headed by
> the former king
> > will be put in place. He at least has a record of
> attempting to set up a
> > constitutional democratic government.
> >
> > --
> > Larry C. Lyons
> > ColdFusion/Web Developer
> > EBStor.com
> > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> > tel:   (703) 393-7930
> > fax:   (703) 393-2659
> > Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> >        http://www.pacel.com
> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > --
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:33 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: How long?
> > >
> > >
> > > I know what the taleban are capable of. thing is, i've known
> > > since before
> > > sept 11. they have been doing what they do for years, and
> > > no-on has bombed
> > > them. this war has absolutely nothing to do with their human
> > > rights abuses.
> > > furthermore, where is the evidence that the northern alliance
> > > will be any
> > > better?
> > >
> > > will
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 02 November 2001 15:28
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: How long?
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry but I equate the Taliban with Nazis, there is only one
> > > effective way
> > > to deal with them. Against almost any one else I'd be
> > > advocating alternative
> > > means but not for these. They have a record that is truly
> > > horrific. You need
> > > to read the reports on the Taliban by Amnesty International
> > > and Human Rights
> > > Watch to know the depths that these people have gone.
> > >
> > > larry
> > >
> > > --
> > > Larry C. Lyons
> > > ColdFusion/Web Developer
> > > EBStor.com
> > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> > > tel:   (703) 393-7930
> > > fax:   (703) 393-2659
> > > Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> > >        http://www.pacel.com
> > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > > --
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:16 AM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: How long?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > hmphhh.....
> > > >
> > > > not really what i meant larry...
> > > >
> > > > will
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 02 November 2001 15:14
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: How long?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Agreed. Maybe its time to start dropping Fuel Air Explosives
> > > > on those caves.
> > > >
> > > > larry
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Larry C. Lyons
> > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer
> > > > EBStor.com
> > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> > > > tel:   (703) 393-7930
> > > > fax:   (703) 393-2659
> > > > Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> > > >        http://www.pacel.com
> > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:02 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: RE: How long?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > well then maybe a change of tactics is whats required?
> > > > >
> > > > > will
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: 02 November 2001 14:57
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: RE: How long?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Its rather hard to make an impact on someone who doesn't give
> > > > > a damn for
> > > > > their own people, while they are in caves with hundreds of
> > > > > feet of bedrock
> > > > > above them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps if the Taliban were directly affected (i.e.. the
> > > > > leadership) things
> > > > > would be different.
> > > > >
> > > > > larry
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Larry C. Lyons
> > > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer
> > > > > EBStor.com
> > > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> > > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> > > > > tel:   (703) 393-7930
> > > > > fax:   (703) 393-2659
> > > > > Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> > > > >        http://www.pacel.com
> > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:51 AM
> > > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > > Subject: How long?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How long does it take a Superpower to bomb a third-world
> > > > > > country into submission?  We've been bombing Afghanistan
> > > > > > since Oct 7 - I
> > > > > > would have thought it would be over by now.  Here it is,
> > > > > > November 2, and we don't seem any closer to an end.  What
> > > > > > concerns me is
> > > > > > that there are some who think that Iraq may have been
> > > > > > involved and may be the target of the next campaign.   Iraq
> > > > > > has a much better
> > > > > > military than Afghanistan so how long would that one take?
> > > > > > And, a campaign against Iraq would be completely different
> > > > > > that the Gulf
> > > > > > war because we wouldn't stop short of going into Baghdad
> > > > this time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On a side note - I guess the people of Vieques are
> happy that
> > > > > > the US Navy has moved on to bombing Afghanistan...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Howie
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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