Of course, I didn't want to list the entire membership of NATO though, and listed only some of the more "known" ones. It was obvious that Canada and the UK would have assisted from the beginning.
larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 fax: (703) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 4:48 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: How long? > > > You underestimate Canada and Britain, they would be in this > without the Charter...........as would a few other countries.. > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/02/01 04:22PM >>> > Not just the US. the NATO charter also has been invoked - > Article 5 does > state quite strongly that an attack on one is an attack on > all. That is why > Britain France Canada etc are also involved. > > larry > > -- > Larry C. Lyons > ColdFusion/Web Developer > EBStor.com > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > tel: (703) 393-7930 > fax: (703) 393-2659 > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > http://www.pacel.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > -- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 4:15 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: How long? > > > > > > Then it is the responsibility of the UN, as part of the UN > America is > > responsible for assisting if needed. > > > > When we are attacked we can take matters in to our own hands > > and do that > > job as we see fit. > > > > I am not opposed to offering support to other countries. We > > just need to > > make sure we are protected at home first. > > > > At 02:51 PM 11/2/2001 -0600, you wrote: > > >Sorry, I meant how do you know the Northern Alliance didn't. > > > > > >Funny thing is, we did this to the American Indians. We did > > some nasty shit > > >in Vietnam too. Morality and ethics is something we could > stand some > > >teaching on. I here conservatives bash Amnesty International > > all the time. I > > >wonder what Rush L. has to say about them. I support them. > > You are not > > >telling me anything I do not know. > > > > > >What I said is how can you say we need to be there because > > of this morality > > >issue, when it happens all over the world and we ignore it. > > > > > >-Gary > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:37 AM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: RE: How long? > > > > > > > > > > > > Amnesty International Reports have amply documented quite a few > > > > crucifixions. Also a common punishment has been to bury > > transgressor alive > > > > and then drive tanks and other heavy vehicles over the > > burial spot. The > > > > Taleban has also committed quite a few massacres of > > civilians and have > > > > engaged in ethnic cleansing of places in Northern Afghanistan, > > > > for instance > > > > this report back in 1998: > > > > > http://web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/Index/ASA110081998?OpenDocument&of=C > > > > OUNTRIES\A > > > > FGHANISTAN, or this one from last January: > > > > > http://web.amnesty.org/ai.nsf/Index/ASA110012001?OpenDocument&of=C > > > > OUNTRIES\A > > > > FGHANISTAN. > > > > > > > > does it matter how they die? The fact is that the Taleban > > has engaged in > > > > genocide. > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > > EBStor.com > > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Gary P. McNeel, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 11:32 AM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: RE: How long? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you know they didn't crucify people? Maybe they just > > > > > take them out > > > > > back and shoot them in the head. No, these people are just > > > > > another flavor of > > > > > what is there now, only less organized and probably > more lethal. > > > > > > > > > > -Gary > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:40 AM > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > Subject: RE: How long? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Given Rabanni's record of the 90's not much. But they did > > > > > not require the > > > > > > burkas on all women, nor did they crucify people > who disagreed > > > > > > with them. I > > > > > > am hoping that a very wide coalition government headed by > > > > > the former king > > > > > > will be put in place. He at least has a record of > > > > > attempting to set up a > > > > > > constitutional democratic government. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > > > > EBStor.com > > > > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:33 AM > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > Subject: RE: How long? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know what the taleban are capable of. thing is, > i've known > > > > > > > since before > > > > > > > sept 11. they have been doing what they do for years, and > > > > > > > no-on has bombed > > > > > > > them. this war has absolutely nothing to do with > their human > > > > > > > rights abuses. > > > > > > > furthermore, where is the evidence that the > > northern alliance > > > > > > > will be any > > > > > > > better? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > Sent: 02 November 2001 15:28 > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > Subject: RE: How long? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry but I equate the Taliban with Nazis, there > is only one > > > > > > > effective way > > > > > > > to deal with them. Against almost any one else I'd be > > > > > > > advocating alternative > > > > > > > means but not for these. They have a record that is truly > > > > > > > horrific. You need > > > > > > > to read the reports on the Taliban by Amnesty > International > > > > > > > and Human Rights > > > > > > > Watch to know the depths that these people have gone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > > > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > > > > > EBStor.com > > > > > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > > > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > > > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > > > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > > > > > Web: done > > > > Chaos, panic, andhttp://www.ebstor.com > > > > > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:16 AM > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: How long? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmphhh..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not really what i meant larry... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > Sent: 02 November 2001 15:14 > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: How long? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. Maybe its time to start dropping Fuel Air > > Explosives > > > > > > > > on those caves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > > > > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > > > > > > EBStor.com > > > > > > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > > > > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > > > > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > > > > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > > > > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > > > > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > > > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:02 AM > > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: How long? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well then maybe a change of tactics is whats required? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > Sent: 02 November 2001 14:57 > > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: How long? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its rather hard to make an impact on someone > > who doesn't give > > > > > > > > > a damn for > > > > > > > > > their own people, while they are in caves with > > hundreds of > > > > > > > > > feet of bedrock > > > > > > > > > above them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps if the Taliban were directly affected > (i.e.. the > > > > > > > > > leadership) things > > > > > > > > > would be different. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > > > > > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > > > > > > > EBStor.com > > > > > > > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > > > > > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > > > > > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > > > > > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > > > > > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > > > > > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > > > > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:51 AM > > > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > > > > Subject: How long? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How long does it take a Superpower to bomb a > > third-world > > > > > > > > > > country into submission? We've been bombing > > Afghanistan > > > > > > > > > > since Oct 7 - I > > > > > > > > > > would have thought it would be over by now. > > Here it is, > > > > > > > > > > November 2, and we don't seem any closer to > > an end. What > > > > > > > > > > concerns me is > > > > > > > > > > that there are some who think that Iraq may > have been > > > > > > > > > > involved and may be the target of the next > > campaign. Iraq > > > > > > > > > > has a much better > > > > > > > > > > military than Afghanistan so how long would > > that one take? > > > > > > > > > > And, a campaign against Iraq would be > > completely different > > > > > > > > > > that the Gulf > > > > > > > > > > war because we wouldn't stop short of going > > into Baghdad > > > > > > > > this time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On a side note - I guess the people of Vieques are > > > > > happy that > > > > > > > > > > the US Navy has moved on to bombing Afghanistan... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Howie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Your ad could be here. 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