Now I got it. I see the distinction. There is a good argument to be made about the business practices of many American companies. More often than not, American companies do not take their role as a stakeholder very seriously and that always frustrates me. When I was getting my business degree, we profiled many of these organizations and I would say, pound for pound, European companies have a better understanding of , and take much more seriously, their role as a stakeholder. That's not to say that no US companies do. Cummins Engines is a good example of a US company that holds it's ethical obligations higher than its financial obligations. It's just that it's not commonplace. It took years of pressure for US companies to start participating that way. Now we have a climate that if a company is philanthropic, then its contributions are tainted because there is a legitimate question as to their motives. I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt though. Donations to charitable organizations are still donations to charitable organizations, whatever the motivation.
Good discussion though Todd, Thanks. Respectfully, Michael Corrigan Programmer Endora Digital Solutions www.endoradigital.com 630/942-5211 x-134 ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd To: CF-Community Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: Re: just when you think you've heard it all ... My point was that America seems to sacrifice a lot more in the name of the almighty dollar than other countries. I didn't toss a snip at capatalism .. I tossed it at capatalist America. :) Todd ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 10:48 AM Subject: Re: just when you think you've heard it all ... > That was an excellent article. Good discussion on the culture that > exists in U.S. airport security. Poor training, low wages, little to no > benefits, and being the butt of jokes all combine to demoralize these > people and does not encourage others to want to work in security. Pay, > in and of itself, is not the cause. It is only one factor in the > equation. It is the combination of all of these things that creates the > culture in which these people work. You didn't discuss that in your > original post. Your only statement was a quip about the comparison to > them and people who flip burgers and I was trying to point out that pay > is not the only factor. Seeing that you sent this article, it appears > as though you get that. > > However, there was not a single line in the article about how capitalism > is to blame though. European countries all engage in capitalistic > activities and they were being held up as examples of the way things > should be done. Seems to me that capitalism isn't a significant reason > either. > > Respectfully, > > Michael Corrigan > Programmer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Todd > To: CF-Community > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:22 AM > Subject: Re: just when you think you've heard it all ... > > > Um .. have a go at this ... > > > http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/flight.risk/stories/part3.m > ain > bar.html > > Todd > > > Hate to break it to you Todd, but capitalism or the rate of pay has > > little to do with it. Incompetent people are going to be > incompetent no > > matter how much or how little you pay them. A persons work ethic is > not > > defined by their level of pay, it is defined more by their level of > > self-respect, self-dignity, and self-pride. Take my boss for > instance. > > She's worthless and gets paid plenty to do so. On the other side, > I'll > > go to Burger King for lunch and see the people working in the back, > > hustling their buns off (no pun intended)! I've had jobs where I > > scrubbed toilets, cleaned pig pens, and swept rocks out of a parking > lot > > and didn't get paid very much for doing it. (Especially the pig pen > > one. I didn't get paid because that was punishment for screwing > around. > > My dad found out and sent me to Mr. Brown's farm to work for the > summer, > > but that's another story) But I'll tell you this, those were the > > cleanest toilets, the cleanest pig pens, and there was not a rock to > be > > found on that parking lot. Why you ask? Because I take pride in my > > work. A persons work is a reflection of themselves. Sloppy work > > generally means a sloppy person. Organized work generally means > > organized person. > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
