Well, Won has made a distinction between humane and humanist that I
have to think about. I am not answering for him, but I think you are
in the passage I primarily used to make my point that Camus is a
humanist, in the sense that he really believes in the potential of
man.

(Eerie to see that comment about ignorance in the current times.) 

It seems to me that Camus' works are either full of despair (Stranger,
Fall) or they seem to say that there *is* hope but men must work
together. There was an essay Camus wrote once where he reviewed one of
Sartre's works. I wonder if that has made its way onto the internet.
Also, I can't quite remember what it was that he had to say about the
myth of Sisyphus. That too might be worth a look.

Sartre on the other hand seemed to say in Nausea and in Being and
Nothingness that a man might as well be a table leg until he acts, and
that act defines him as a man. I think that this was a philosophy born
of the French Resistance. It was a time when people had to choose
between doing the right thing and doing the easy thing, and for a long
time after that there was no need to make this choice.

My .02

Dana

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:10:26 -0600, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Let's not confuse humane with humanist.
> 
> "The evil that is in the world always comes of ignorance, and good
> intentions may do as much harm as malevolence, if they lack
> understanding. On the whole, men are more good than bad; that,
> however, isn't the real point. But they are more or less ignorant, and
> it is that we call vice or virtue; the most incorrigible vice being
> that of an ignorance that fancies it knows everything and therefore
> claims for itself the right to kill. The soul of the murderer is
> blind; and there can be no true goodness nor true love without the
> utmost clear-sightedness."
> 
> Camus. The Plague
> 
> Where does that fall in the humane / humanist to you? I'm not
> challenging, just curious to your view of it.
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> 

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