The probability assigned in the Drake Equation to a planet being in
the hospitable zone is actually quite small. I don't remember what it
is -- .10 maybe? -- but it's pretty small.


On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 13:18:13 -0500, Jim Davis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 12:26 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Global Warming (Re: Epic devestation in Asia)
> >
> > > Brian wrote:
> > > The way I see it, sometimes nature just happens.
> > >
> > > We seem to think we have some sort of control, for better or worse, over
> > > everything.  It reminds me a little bit of the global warming debate. I
> > seem
> > > to recall the earth experienced a massive case of "global warming"
> > thousands
> > > of years ago when it came out of the Ice Age....I wonder if we caused
> > that
> > > one too?
> 
> Just because we didn't cause ALL of the warming events doesn't mean that we
> aren't causing this one.  That logic is completely twisted.  (Can a rapist
> use the defense that he didn't commit the last rape investigated so he must
> not have committed this one?)
> 
> The warming after an ice age is caused for much the same reason: an usually
> large release of CO2 in a short (geologically) time span (several thousand
> years).  As the ice receded it exposes thousands of square miles of dead
> organic matter which (as organic matter tends to do) rotted.
> 
> The current case has additional problems.  We're releasing vast amounts of
> CO2 (in this case from fossil fuel consumption) AND we're destroying the
> available CO2 sinks (the forests and jungles, especially in the Amazon and
> green ocean algae) which means more of that CO2 ends up in the atmosphere
> than ever before.
> 
> The fossil fuel resources that we're expending actually represent former CO2
> sinks (forests) as well, so we're not only destroying the current sinks, but
> we're "unlocking" ancient ones as well.
> 
> We're also doing things faster than ever.  The glaciers of the last ice age
> took thousands of years to recede and release that CO2 - we're set to match
> that output in much less time (perhaps much, much less time).
> 
> Lastly the damage to the ozone still has to figure in completely, but it
> seems more and more likely that allowing more energetic radiation in through
> the atmosphere will act as an accelerating factor.
> 
> It's also becoming quite clear that relatively minor changes in global
> climate has tremendously vast implications over the long term.  Most models
> are now showing, to circle around, that the last ice age was the result of
> very small global temperature changes.
> 
> (As an aside this affects another hobby of mine, the search for intelligent
> life in the universe.  Unfortunately the evidence that small changes create
> huge implications could also mean that the chances for planets to form in
> the possibly rather thin "hospitable" zone around a star are very small.
> Then again atmospheric composition could also play a much larger regulating
> role and the zone could be quite broad.  Anyway... it's not really part of
> the discussion.)
> 
> So, is man the only cause of Global Warming?  No, of course not.  But is he
> the cause of THIS global warming?  Most scientists would agree that in large
> part, yes he is.  At the very least he's a major contributing factor.
> 
> Jim Davis
> 
> 

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