One other thing I did note on this was the following statement..

<sic>
"...This means that in a classroom of 25 to 30 children, it is likely that
at least one will have ADHD."

Hyperactivity aside.......I say what?! This is NORMAL!!!!  Have you EVER
been to classroom where out of the 25-30 Children all are 100% focused? No,
exactly.  The way it targets children as an excuse to further and promote
such nonsense is insane.  I have two good friends who are doctors - one in
Pediatrics and both them agree that it targeting people like this is wrong.
Not all kids/adults will

The first rule of Psychiatry is to mess with peoples minds....




-----Original Message-----
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 18 January 2005 15:21
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Adult ADD

I take it you're a professional in the area who has carefully studied
the literature base? Are you familiar with Frostig's research in the
70's through the most recent fMRI research (which btw shows fairly
strong support to the MBD hypothesis)? Try looking at some of this
research I pulled from scholar.google.com. about 49,000 separate
mentions of the term ADHD.
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=adhd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Search

Now how many of these results can be explained by laziness. 

Now my rant.
<rant>
I have ADHD - I've lived with it all my life. I work my ass off trying
to compensate for specific cognitive deficits due to it. And you dare
call me lazy. You have no bloody idea what it is like. Its the narrow
minded stupid reactions such as yours that caused me a lot of pain in
the past as a kid. "He's lazy, he'd do quite well if he'd try harder"
etc. That is pure and utter bullshit. I would suggest educating
yourself instead of spouting off in ignorance. You might end up with a
better idea of what its like.
</rant>

larry

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:57:39 -0000, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm sorry but it's absurd, it is neither a 'disease' nor a 'condition' -
> it's just plain laziness and human behaviour.   Everyone does one or more
of
> the listed symptoms EVERYDAY is that to say we are struck with ADD?  Jeez,
> never heard anything to ridiculous in my days on the planet (besides
George
> Bush talking.)
> 
> The checklist is a tick list of every child's experience at school!  To
say
> that a child has ADD or whatver other related behavior based on these fact
> is idiotic.   So, the times when I stared out of the Window half way
through
> my Chemistry, Physics or Maths exams/lessons an indication of ADD?  No, it
> didn't stop me from doing well in these exams!
> 
> Indeed it only seems to be affect Americans ;-) Maybe that tells you
> something about your medical system - I guess since you have to pay for
your
> treatment it makes easy prey for these sham doctors.
> 
> Maybe I will train up and convince everyone they have AGS : Acute
> Gullability Syndrome - I could make a fortune...... ;-)
> 
> Ka Ching Ching
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 18 January 2005 14:49
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Adult ADD
> 
> It used to be characterized as minimal brain dyfunction.
> 
> Also remember psychological and neurological conditions also use the
> diagnosis model but for the most part these are not diseases - rather
> changes in brain function.
> 
> As for the diagnosis, Dana provided a good checklist from the DSM.
> 
> larry
> 
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:51:36 -0000, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I cant help it : ADD (and I am assuming that you mean Attention Deficit
> > Order) is not a disease so I how can you be 'diagnosed' with it?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Won Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 18 January 2005 13:52
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Adult ADD
> >
> > Re: ADD
> >
> > This is what I was told about ADD by a doctor when I asked about being
> > tested.  I have no medical knowledge and don't know if it's true or not.
> >
> > "If you graduated from college, at worst your ADD is so mild that no
> > responsible doctor should prescribe medication to treat it."
> >
> > Reading through the emails, I'm now thinking that this was one doctors
> > opinion and it seems many of list members have had some type of
treatment.
> >
> > Any opinions?
> >
> > --
> > 2004 - The year $184M couldn't buy a pennant.
> >
> > Ron Artest: Extremely flawed, very accidental, semi-martyr
> >
> >
> 
> 



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