point is (and I haven't the time to read through the links larry posted) there is a definite difference (chemical (?)) between a 'normal' brain and one that has been diagnosed as suffering from ADD/ADHD.
so...your 'opinion' conflicts with medical data that empirically has determined a physical condition. yes, the 'symptoms' can make it easy to mis-diagnose...but that doesn't mean that the condition does not exist. medical studies have proven otherwise (and not just with a checklist of 'symptoms'). On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:27:05 -0000, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Certainly no offence, but I don't dare, its my opinion and I cannot see how > anyone can say or prove it's something you suffer from I really don't. No > one saying your lazy ;-) my point is this: all 'symptoms' posted on that > list (or nearly all) are just indications of normal human behvaiour. If you > could concentrate on something 100% 24/7, 365 then you would be a > robot....... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 18 January 2005 15:21 > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Adult ADD > > I take it you're a professional in the area who has carefully studied > the literature base? Are you familiar with Frostig's research in the > 70's through the most recent fMRI research (which btw shows fairly > strong support to the MBD hypothesis)? Try looking at some of this > research I pulled from scholar.google.com. about 49,000 separate > mentions of the term ADHD. > http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=adhd&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Search > > Now how many of these results can be explained by laziness. > > Now my rant. > <rant> > I have ADHD - I've lived with it all my life. I work my ass off trying > to compensate for specific cognitive deficits due to it. And you dare > call me lazy. You have no bloody idea what it is like. Its the narrow > minded stupid reactions such as yours that caused me a lot of pain in > the past as a kid. "He's lazy, he'd do quite well if he'd try harder" > etc. That is pure and utter bullshit. I would suggest educating > yourself instead of spouting off in ignorance. You might end up with a > better idea of what its like. > </rant> > > larry > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:57:39 -0000, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm sorry but it's absurd, it is neither a 'disease' nor a 'condition' - > > it's just plain laziness and human behaviour. Everyone does one or more > of > > the listed symptoms EVERYDAY is that to say we are struck with ADD? Jeez, > > never heard anything to ridiculous in my days on the planet (besides > George > > Bush talking.) > > > > The checklist is a tick list of every child's experience at school! To > say > > that a child has ADD or whatver other related behavior based on these fact > > is idiotic. So, the times when I stared out of the Window half way > through > > my Chemistry, Physics or Maths exams/lessons an indication of ADD? No, it > > didn't stop me from doing well in these exams! > > > > Indeed it only seems to be affect Americans ;-) Maybe that tells you > > something about your medical system - I guess since you have to pay for > your > > treatment it makes easy prey for these sham doctors. > > > > Maybe I will train up and convince everyone they have AGS : Acute > > Gullability Syndrome - I could make a fortune...... ;-) > > > > Ka Ching Ching > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 18 January 2005 14:49 > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Adult ADD > > > > It used to be characterized as minimal brain dyfunction. > > > > Also remember psychological and neurological conditions also use the > > diagnosis model but for the most part these are not diseases - rather > > changes in brain function. > > > > As for the diagnosis, Dana provided a good checklist from the DSM. > > > > larry > > > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:51:36 -0000, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I cant help it : ADD (and I am assuming that you mean Attention Deficit > > > Order) is not a disease so I how can you be 'diagnosed' with it? > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Won Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 18 January 2005 13:52 > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Adult ADD > > > > > > Re: ADD > > > > > > This is what I was told about ADD by a doctor when I asked about being > > > tested. I have no medical knowledge and don't know if it's true or not. > > > > > > "If you graduated from college, at worst your ADD is so mild that no > > > responsible doctor should prescribe medication to treat it." > > > > > > Reading through the emails, I'm now thinking that this was one doctors > > > opinion and it seems many of list members have had some type of > treatment. > > > > > > Any opinions? > > > > > > -- > > > 2004 - The year $184M couldn't buy a pennant. > > > > > > Ron Artest: Extremely flawed, very accidental, semi-martyr > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:143045 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
