OH Todd! Congratulations!!!!!!

Isn't it fun?! I do so like the light in their eyes when it clicks! Very rewarding!!!

It something though, the energy you have to stand up for 4-4.5 hours straight and 
yammer away about a topic that so invigorates you
..

again, hearty congrats! Sounds like a job well done!

Erika
(with a *K*)
Serving Todd for a better tomorrow! <grin>

>>|-----Original Message-----
>>|From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>|Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:15 PM
>>|To: CF-Community
>>|Subject: Re: Teaching (was RE: Odd E Commerce thingy..)
>>|
>>|
>>|ow ow .. my poor feet.  I never knew I could stand up in front of people and
>>|talk for 4 hours.  Well, I knew I could, I just never thought I would.
>>|
>>|Thanks again for that info Eri*K*a.  Using that, we got all the way through
>>|the SQL stuff and I was able to give an example of <cfquery> and
>>|<cfoutput>ing that query.  That's really something, considering 1/2 of them
>>|didn't know anything about databases and none of them knew anything about
>>|SQL.  We even covered basic normalization and primary and foreign keys.
>>|They even (eventually) came up with the correct query to gather information
>>|from 2 seperate tables using a key join without me even telling them how to
>>|do it.  They came up with:
>>|
>>|SELECT s.name, class.name AS class_name
>>|FROM student s, class
>>|WHERE s.id = 1
>>|    AND s.class = class.id
>>|
>>|I know it doesn't look like much, but not only did they get the query right,
>>|but they managed to toss in 2 types of aliasing as well.  Pretty smart
>>|group, considering this was the only joining query they have ever seen
>>|before hehe.
>>|
>>|I'm sure I lost one and maybe another, but I'm expecting the rest will be
>>|back tomorrow.  It was so funny watching their eyes light up when they put 2
>>|and 2 together and began to realise the possibilities of this cool new stuff
>>|they were being shown.  I remember having the same feeling when I first
>>|started with CF way back when.  They were fascinated by the GROUP BY
>>|followed by an ORDER BY. hehe
>>|
>>|Still, it *was* information overload.  Let's see how much they remember
>>|tomorrow evening.  I think I will start them off with 3 tables (I'll make 2
>>|contain seperate data and make the 3rd be a joining table) and tell them
>>|what I want from it and make them come up with the query.  Am I mean or
>>|what? >=-)
>>|
>>|Oh .. one thing if I may ... Our database guru said you might want to
>>|include a brief mention on the "HAVING" clause since you talk about
>>|aggregate functions :)
>>|
>>|geez.  I'm so shy .. I still can't believe I suggested this, let alone
>>|volunteered for it, but I'm excited after the progress we made today.  One
>>|of them even *asked* for homework  Let's hope I can keep this up for 7 - 9
>>|more days, heh.
>>|
>>|Hmmm .. maybe after this, I should go for my Certified CF Instructor thingy
>>|:)
>>|
>>|Todd
>>|-----
>>|Todd for President
>>|Looking like a dork in front of a room full of people, strictly for their
>>|amusement, while fooling himself into thinking he's doing something
>>|important, for a better tomorrow.
>>|
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