Michael, You can read the paper here:
http://econ-www.mit.edu/faculty/?prof_id=mullain&type=paper The names were, pardon the expression, fairly lilly white. The authors did address many of the same concerns. larry On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:55:06 -0500, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And what of other 'ethnic' names, regardless of color? What of Jewish > sounding, German sounding, Asian sounding, etc. Correlation does not imply > causation. Was it the 'non-whiteness' of the name as in the 'blackness of it > or was it the 'non-whiteness' of the name across the board? Will a > Shemaryahu (my youngest's name) be judged as 'black' because it's obviously > not white? Was this aspect even looked at? > Just playing devil's advocate here. I did experimental psych, statistics and > social psych. The devil is in the details as to what the results actually > mean and if something was missed. > > > The study itself just looked at "Black" vs "White" names for a total > > of 36 names all told. (black vs white, male vs female - as an aside > > the "female" resumes got significantly fewer callbacks as well). > > > > As for the discriminating, the study only sent the resumes in response > > to job ads placed by companies in the Boston or Chicago areas, so > > those doing the discrimination were the hiring managers in real > > companies > > > > What it means is that all things equal, these employers were more > > likely to call back someone with a "white" name over a "black" name, > > even when the resumes were for all intents an purposes the same. > > > > Ergo it would appear that your hypothesis that AA is no longer needed > > is not tenable. > > > > larry > > > > > > On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:06:40 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > It's unclear if we're supposed to kill thread, but, personally I like > > > it! Anyway, I know that says something, but I'm not sure it proves > > > anything. I'd toss out 3 questions: > > > > > > 1.) Who's doing the discriminating? Blacks or whites or other? Man or > > woman? > > > > > > 2.) Does that really mean we need special program to force employers > > > to accept a quota of minorities, or does it mean we need a program to > > > do this sort of study and ask the screeners why they didn't call back > > > the "black" names? Possibly with consequences attached to specific > > > findings? That is, is AA the right "solution" to the right problem? > > > > > > 3.) Is this just for black names, but not for other minorities, i.e., > > > women, hispanics, Asians, etc.? Isn't a problem we have right now > > > that there are too many Americans not taking low paying jobs so we > > > have to import Mexicans that are more than willing to work (and do)? > > > That is, why do blacks have problems getting jobs, but Mexicans seem > > > to be taking too many? > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:145628 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
