Software doesn't really cost that much money compared to the people you
need to get something out of it. There are cheaper J2EE based solutions
out there (i'm thinking JBoss/tomcat/Jetty based stuff) but Java
developers cost more than CF developers. Don't know about the ASPX/PHP
market. Also, if you already have a lot of CF code in production, then
you will need people with CF skills unless your boss is planning on
"saving" money by rewriting apps that work perfectly well in another
language. If you're going to keep CF for these old apps then you need to
think about moving to CFMX (ie 6) because CF5 is fast approaching end of
life (no more support from macromedia). If you are already on 6.1 and
looking for reasons to move to 7 then you are SOL. Having said that,
many people want to upgrade to 7 but fewer really neeeeeeeed to.
The one thing NOT to do is to try to convince him by listing all the
things that CF can do. Counterintuitive, i know, but when you tell a
geek that technology A (which he will think of as "your" technology) can
do something, he will immediately think you are saying that technology B
("his" technology) can't... and then you're in "my technology can beat
up your technology" and that will never get anywhere.
In conclusion, pick your battles. This might be a great occasion to pad
your cv out - getting paid to learn! - just make sure that end customers
know it's not your fault that things that used to take a day now take a
week...
/t
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 1:06 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: My Worst Nightmare Just Came True
>
>I always have seen the threads that state "My manager decided that CF
>costs money, so we have decided to use technology that is free".
>
>You know the threads I'm talking about.
>
>Well, this morning, that came true for me. I was told we
>don't have the
>budget for CF Enterprise (even though we just got a $15,000,000 grant
>last year and are purchasing a $2-3,000,000 business system)
>so CF is on
>its way out in the next year.
>
>The office of university relations has been wanting us to get a content
>management system CMS so we can better distribute content chores to
>different departments rather than tying up the web developers.
>
>Well, to counter that, my manager said, we will use Microsoft's
>Sharepoint Portal server. "It is an excellent CMS application!"
>
>My mgr also told me that the main reason we are dropping ColdFusion is
>that EVERY OTHER application server vendor does not charge you to
>purchase additional licenses to cluster applications. If we
>built a web
>cluster to load balance, we would have to purchase the same
>number of CF
>licenses as physical servers. He said no other vendor requires that.
>You pay for a single license and you are free to use on any load
>balanced cluster.
>
>I have spent the last seven years using CF and have such a background
>that I can quickly get apps up and running, although they may not be
>totally efficient, but I can fix those at a later time when time is not
>as critical.
>
>Now, we are getting three large web-based applications, all built in
>Java or MS technology, dropping ColdFusion and yet the number of
>application requests continue to increase. Wait until we get our
>business system running. Then, requests will skyrocket.
>
>So, that leaves me at point-zero with Java, people jumping on my ass to
>get development requests built using technology no one at our
>campus has
>ever seen, and little to no budget for training or other resources.
>(Except we have a coupon for an IBM Java class or two.)
>
>It just really seems unrealistic to totally dump all the CF knowledge,
>start at nothing with Java and still expect to get more work done than
>ever before.
>
>I don't really expect any replies about the justifications of CF vs
>other technologies. It won't help. This guy came from IBM and is very
>deep in MS's ass as well. MS hung the moon and lit the stars, if you
>know what I mean.
>
>I just wanted to bitch to you guys. You guys who probably understand
>this situation as well.
>
>Now, I have to try to figure out how to get three totally-different web
>portals, running on different application servers and physical servers,
>to appear as a single entity.
>
>Oh well. My day sucks royally!
>
>
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