Jesus. The fact that he was at one point trying to get her cured does
not mean that he was not controlling. I grant you that it doesn't
prove that he was, either, but it fits the facts of his later behavior
exceedingly well. I suspect you've never seen such a relationship up
close. I've seen a couple where the wife was definitely, no question,
being physically abused, and yes, they both kept going back, because
such men aren't monsters, and they are often very likeable (and
apparently lovable) in their better moments.

But your challenge can eqally well be reversed. Prove that he acted in
her interests! The fact is that in the absence of a trial transcript
at a minimum neither of us can prove to the satisfaction of the other
that he/she is right.

Having said all that, there is this Microsft white paper I really need
to get through. This is a lot less dry but it isn't getting me through
the material.

Dana


On Apr 8, 2005 10:29 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dana wrote:
> > I'm sorry, but I have already spent way too much time on this, and I
> > don't think you're going to change your mind. I'm not, because I am
> > right :P
> >
> 
> You may be, but I can't tell because your argument is a moving target.
> You said it best, either you believe Mr. Schiavo or not.
> 
> If not, then show why you don't believe him and not with a bunch of,
> "well I would of done it this way" facts like, "he should've visited
> more."  What that really means is, "I would've visited more."
> 
> Move into a productive argument.  For example, what was his motive?
> All you've said there is, "to control her"  That's groundless as
> there's not a shred of evidence to support it.
> 
> Find a useful theory on motive and then show how over 15 years this
> explains the facts.  For example, how does your control theory explain
> the 2 years he flew her around the country while living with her
> parents?  It doesn't.
> 
> You need a theoretical framework that supports the facts and you don't
> have one.  I do.  That's where we disagree.
> 
> 

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