Same here... Mostly it's just the box model, but you can force IE to use the w3c box-model by making sure your doctype includes the URI, and that solves the problem of positioning varying greatly between IE and other browsers. I'm still very anxious for CSS3 to become a recommendation and then widely supported with box-height and box-width properties. Although I remember also seeing a recommendation to completely change the "display" property which makes it much more complex and would cause problems for lots and lots of existing code (that is to say not just mine). I'm hoping they change their minds about at least some of it (in particular the part where "display:x" as a short-hand for display-mode/display-whatever works for everything _but_ "display:none" which seems to me a totally abritrary decision), before they finalize the recommendation. ... Although now I can't find the doc on the w3c site that describes the idea... :-/
> I can sympathize Matt, but it does get better. I've > finished a beta of > a page that is pure CSS and the positioning can work. It > drives you > crazy but it does work. I'll put a page up showing the > example > tonight. > larry > On 4/14/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> <cf_rant> >> >> CSS is completely useless for positioning. >> >> Whoever designed it has an abstract mind where things >> like 2 + 2 = Green. >> >> It's a silly waste of time to actually design a dynamic >> site using CSS >> positioning. >> >> Table positioning is much easier to understand, and >> actually works the way >> you expect it to. >> >> I've seen a lot of things about CSS, one of the central >> concepts is that >> it's supposed to "influence" your design rather than make >> it fixed. >> >> That's the biggest problem with CSS - it does not allow >> you to really fix >> things the way you want them fixed. >> >> I mean, how hard is it to set an anchor point - like the >> HTML <a> tag - and >> then reference that point to be a relative distance from? >> >> Relative positioning - what a joke. >> >> It lets you move things from where it's SUPPOSED to be, >> rather than from >> another object? >> >> Who's screwed up mind thought this one up? >> >> And then it leaves white space where your object was >> SUPPOSED to be. >> >> I've gone back to good ol' tables. >> >> At least there's only so many ways to render a table. >> >> And firefox and IE look about the same. >> >> I've written a haiku about this: >> >> CSS on web >> >> Crazy fools have made you up >> >> Death for programmers >> >> </cf_rant> >> >> - Matt Small >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase RoboHelp from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=59 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:153954 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
