Gruss Did I not say just yesterday that it would be impossible to say with scientific certitude whether he was or not? It's an opinion which I have said is an opinion and I really don't know why it bothers you so much :)
I also think that Michael Jackson is guilty, John Paul II was a good man and hey, I'd just as soon save the whales, thank you. I furthermore think that it would be a mistake to invade Iraq, that retirement accounts are a good idea and dreamweaver is not worth the effort. I think cats are smarter than dogs and that my kids are both intelligent and goodlooking. These are opinions. But back to Schiavo... ya. I certainly wouldn't want him as caretaker for anyone I cared about. Can I prove he was abusive? No, and I said so lo these many moons ago. Do I think he is? Yes, and that's based on actually reading some of the material out there as well as watching two women I knew pretty well go through something of the kind. Can I convince someone of this who really seems to have some sort of stake in believing otherwise? Probably not. If we really really care about this we can now look into the allegations received by the DCF, as the judge has apparently oredered the records released. And thus the question of 30 vs 89 may at last be resolved :) Just to pre-empt another round of confusion - abuse at the hospice in the last few years is a separate issue from whether the marriage was originally abusive or whether her injuries where caused by her husband. Or at least it is in my mind. Anyway, here's a link on the release of records. http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2005/04/15/schiavo/ I'm pasting the text for those that don't want to sit through the ad. Media gets access to Schiavo records - - - - - - - - - - - - ASSOCIATED PRESS April 15, 2005 | CLEARWATER, Fla. (AP) -- A judge has ordered state officials to release summaries of their investigations into the treatment of Terri Schiavo, the severely brain-damaged woman who died last month after her feeding tube was removed. Pinellas Circuit Judge George Greer gave the state Department of Children and Families until Monday to release the records on dozens of investigations into complaints that Schiavo was mistreated. None of the allegations were substantiated. The death of Schiavo, 41, ended a gut-wrenching court battle between her husband and parents over whether she would have wanted to live in a vegetative state. "The public interest includes the need for citizens to know of and adequately evaluate the actions of DCF and the court system in providing vulnerable adults with the protections provided" under state law, Greer wrote Thursday. The agency, which had objected to releasing the records, will comply with the order, DCF chief of staff Bill Spann said. The repeated allegations of abuse were based partly on bone scans showing Terri Schiavo suffered fractures and statements she made to family and friends that she was unhappy in her marriage. Schiavo's husband, Michael, has denied harming his wife. His lawyer said the fractures resulted from osteoporosis caused by the woman's years of immobility and complications of her medication. Lawyers for Schiavo's husband welcomed Thursday's ruling. Release of the records "will be helpful for all concerned to evaluate the frivolity of the continuing investigation," attorney Hamden Baskin III said. There was no immediate response to a message left early Friday for attorneys for Schiavo's parents, Bob and Mary Schindler. On 4/15/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dana wrote: > > ::scrolling back up the thread:: If you want simple bullets this is > > the site you want. > > > > All of this is for people intimately familar with someone. As far as > I know, you're not intimately familar with Mr. Schiavo which would > mean none of these is a sound methodology for you to use to claim he > fits a profile. > > While I grant you that there are some allegations and some things that > could or couldn't be related to abuse, there's certainly not enough to > say he fits a profile. > > So while you're entitled to FEEL he's an abuser, I don't think you're > entitled to say he fits a profile that you can neither define nor > provide the methodology you used to determine that. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:154282 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
