> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 9:16 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: just plain wrong
> 
> If you are going to mainstream problem children. and this is the case
> whether this particular kid is a problem kid or not, then they
> *should* be trained to deal with thse things. Jim apparently was...

Just to clear on this: I worked with kids in upstate New York for a little
under four years (before I moved to Boston where, unfortunately I couldn't
afford to live with those jobs).  It's a shame that I made nearly twice as
much money working at 7-Eleven.

I was trained to handle special needs kids by the local Mental Health
Association to work in their Respite Care program.

For this I needed to learn Pediatric CPR (sometimes called "Community CPR"
because it covers all ages), Advanced First Aid, Pediatric Restraint and
become a Mandated Reporter.  There were other classes and such, but those
were the certifications I needed.

At the same time I also ran programs (the after school program and the
creative crafts summer camp program) for the local YMCA.

For this position (working with "regular" kids) all I needed in the way of
training was Pediatric CPR (oh - we went through a "Project Adventure" cycle
as well and I needed to do a quick "Live Saving" course because we had a
pond at the camp).

So - in short - working with regular kids generally requires relatively
little training while working with special needs kids requires more training
(the exact training required varies from state to state).

Adding in the fear of litigation I think public school teachers trained in
restraint would probably be pretty rare.

In my case my extended training helped IMMENSELY in all the work with
children I did.  I rarely needed the "advanced" skills in my work for the
YMCA, but on the rare occasions that I need them I was truly thankful for
them.

It was also helpful to straddle both organizations - for example we had one
kid in the after school program that simply wasn't fit for that environment.
He had severe rage and impulse compulsion issues and had picked up some
really nasty racist tendencies.

Although we had to drop him from that program we were able to enroll him the
same respite care program I was involved in (where he became one of "my"
kids in that program).  In that program he once slashed me with a kitchen
knife making his removal from the after school program a much less
guilt-laden memory.

Jim Davis





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