I'll second Todd (except for the going-over-to-ASP
part ::shudders at the thought!::)

I should've gone with my instincts and gotten into a
good ole fashion whoopass smack down with that skinny
Macromedia woman who ripped the notice about the
community suite from the bulletin board as I was
reading it.  

Talk about childish.  We're behind you 100% Mike!

Katie

***who wants to form a commission for cflurkers whose
main purpose is to covertly pass around info about
cf_community events at Macromedia sponsored programs. 
Just think of us as Todd's (or whomever is elected
cf-president) CIA.


--- Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Come on Michael .. cheer up :)
> 
> If they wanna be asses, let them.  If they wanna go
> the cast iron corporate
> route, let them.  If they wanna alienate the people
> that made Allaire (and
> its product line) attractive enough to buy, let
> them.
> 
> We are all intelligent, educated developers .. some
> with great influence in
> respect to their company's purchasing decisions. 
> The 'CF community' on this
> list is more than a 'CF community'.  We are a
> community of web developers.
> CF / PHP / JSP / ASP / Perl / whatever .. a
> particular language doesn't make
> a community .. the people do.  If we all suddenly
> switched to ASP tomorrow,
> we would still be the same community, though a bit
> confused ;).  If MM can't
> understand this, then .. well .. I guess they won't
> care if we move on.
> 
> My employer, the fastest growing MS training company
> in the world, is rather
> interested in moving to ASP.Net. I've recently been
> kinda fighting this by
> volunteering 3 hours a night teaching people CF and
> Fusebox.  I'm personally
> pushing for an investment in CF 6, and myself and
> the lead graphics designer
> are eager for a partnership with MM in training and
> development with Flash,
> Ultradev, etc.  Upper management is listening.
> 
> I still have a certain loyalty to MM, but if they
> keep this arrogance
> towards their own 'development community' up, I will
> withdraw my support
> from them and Neo completely, and throw my full
> support towards MS' fare.  I
> won't be happy about jumping to an MS web
> development product, but ...
> 
> Anyway, my point is, I don't care what web dev. app.
> I use, I'll always
> consider myself a part of this community and I hope
> everyone else will still
> consider me a part of it too.
> 
> No matter what,  I'm behind you all the way, Mr. D.
> :)
> 
> As the next President, I am officially appointing
> Michael D. Secretary of
> Commerce *and* Secretary of Smacking Around Dumb
> Companies.
> 
> Todd
> -----
> Todd for President
> Seriously considering nuking MM, (get out soon RC ..
> any true Star Wars fan
> doesn't deserve to be nuked!), for a better
> tomorrow.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Dinowitz"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 4:25 PM
> Subject: Re: House of Fusion Picture Gallery
> 
> 
> > The picture upload is set so that if you don't
> have an account when you
> add
> > a picture, it adds one for you. I've been wanting
> to upgrade this
> > desperately but as Judith mentioned, I'm not
> exactly in a great mood at
> > this time. I'll get back to writing and creating
> as soon as I can. or not.
> > http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/
> >
> > At 01:31 PM 11/19/01, you wrote:
> > >I just spoke to Michael on the phone. You may
> have noticed that he's not
> > >been posting to the list for the last few weeks.
> Since Devcon, he's been
> in
> > >a deep depression -- It has to do with
> Macromedia's trying to sabotage
> the
> > >Community Suite. I have been trying to help, but
> to be honest, I don't
> know
> > >how to get him out of this funk.
> > >
> > >He said he would respond because I had asked,
> when he has a second.
> > >
> > >Judith
> 
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