Damn right! I have learned a few languages over the years. I know CF, ASP, 
Java perl, python, and I still know some C++

If MM want to be ass holes then let them. I have already started moving 
away from CF as a primary development language(I like JSP/Java).

I still like CF. It works great in a lot of situations. But the way MM is 
going I am going to need to know other things if I still want to survive in 
this world.


At 12:24 AM 11/20/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Come on Michael .. cheer up :)
>
>If they wanna be asses, let them.  If they wanna go the cast iron corporate
>route, let them.  If they wanna alienate the people that made Allaire (and
>its product line) attractive enough to buy, let them.
>
>We are all intelligent, educated developers .. some with great influence in
>respect to their company's purchasing decisions.  The 'CF community' on this
>list is more than a 'CF community'.  We are a community of web developers.
>CF / PHP / JSP / ASP / Perl / whatever .. a particular language doesn't make
>a community .. the people do.  If we all suddenly switched to ASP tomorrow,
>we would still be the same community, though a bit confused ;).  If MM can't
>understand this, then .. well .. I guess they won't care if we move on.
>
>My employer, the fastest growing MS training company in the world, is rather
>interested in moving to ASP.Net. I've recently been kinda fighting this by
>volunteering 3 hours a night teaching people CF and Fusebox.  I'm personally
>pushing for an investment in CF 6, and myself and the lead graphics designer
>are eager for a partnership with MM in training and development with Flash,
>Ultradev, etc.  Upper management is listening.
>
>I still have a certain loyalty to MM, but if they keep this arrogance
>towards their own 'development community' up, I will withdraw my support
>from them and Neo completely, and throw my full support towards MS' fare.  I
>won't be happy about jumping to an MS web development product, but ...
>
>Anyway, my point is, I don't care what web dev. app. I use, I'll always
>consider myself a part of this community and I hope everyone else will still
>consider me a part of it too.
>
>No matter what,  I'm behind you all the way, Mr. D. :)
>
>As the next President, I am officially appointing Michael D. Secretary of
>Commerce *and* Secretary of Smacking Around Dumb Companies.
>
>Todd
>-----
>Todd for President
>Seriously considering nuking MM, (get out soon RC .. any true Star Wars fan
>doesn't deserve to be nuked!), for a better tomorrow.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 4:25 PM
>Subject: Re: House of Fusion Picture Gallery
>
>
> > The picture upload is set so that if you don't have an account when you
>add
> > a picture, it adds one for you. I've been wanting to upgrade this
> > desperately but as Judith mentioned, I'm not exactly in a great mood at
> > this time. I'll get back to writing and creating as soon as I can. or not.
> > http://www.houseoffusion.com/users/
> >
> > At 01:31 PM 11/19/01, you wrote:
> > >I just spoke to Michael on the phone. You may have noticed that he's not
> > >been posting to the list for the last few weeks. Since Devcon, he's been
>in
> > >a deep depression -- It has to do with Macromedia's trying to sabotage
>the
> > >Community Suite. I have been trying to help, but to be honest, I don't
>know
> > >how to get him out of this funk.
> > >
> > >He said he would respond because I had asked, when he has a second.
> > >
> > >Judith
>
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