I think I have to agree with S. on this one. Just because people have job openings that doesn't mean the homeless person is capable or qualified to perform the job.
I, too, don't have a degree. I may get one since it's relatively free here, however, from all the degreed developers that have come through this place, I could easily blow them away. And I wouldn't call myself a guru by any means. Some careers require degrees, some only need experience. Several years ago, I was an engineer, by title. I worked my way from a night-shift in a wood-product manufacturing plant to become the lead engineer over the largest projection TV customer we had. I can easily say it was because I loved my job and had a "gut feel" for woodworking and CAD systems. I do know it was not because of any degree. In fact, most engineers in this entire company, spread across many states, did not have degrees, yet this company became and remains very successful. Several years before the engineer position, I took an extra job cutting grass at a local golf course. There, too, I worked my way to the best mower. I was the fairway grass cutter! The benefit of that position was that I had a rear-steering mower with seven reel mowers and a cab over my head. Everyone else was in the sun. I then started HTML back with Mosaic 1.x on UNIX. Ever since then, I have loved this career. When I was let go from the wood-product manufacturer, I was very lucky to find this job eight weeks later. I was accepted because I had more experience than anyone else in the dept. That includes just working in a corporation with real management. Also, the pay was minimal and most people passed it by. I had no choice. My long-winded point is that, I would love to get a job back at that golf course, but degree or not, experience or not, they just don't have a position open for me. I would hire a homeless person if they were capable of doing web development to my standards, but the only issue would be housing. With some twisting of arms, we could probably get him a dorm room on campus until he was able to support his own rent. Most businesses are not like that. I can't imagine many corporations that would house a homeless person, regardless how valuable they could be. The same goes for mom-and-pop shops. I don't think homeless people are lazy. I think the current economy has beaten them down so much they have lost all hope or incentive in finding a paying job. M!ke -----Original Message----- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:12 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Begging on the streets (was Re: Top 10 Super Rant (was Friday Rant)) > mc d's was simply an analogy... there are a plethora of options... That just makes it painfully obvious how much you don't know about homelessness. > fuck, monster.com has more jobs than one could imagine. Not for homeless people. > point is... i have no idea what its like to be homeless, none > whatsoever, but i get more angry and more violent from the sight of a > person sitting on a corner begging than i do for most social > injustices. > GET UP GO FIND WORK and i BET that people will be more willing to help > you. Sit on your tuckus, and you will most likely find yourself > sitting there forever. Yes it's better for them to have something to do to earn some cash, but there aren't better options than pan-handling for _every_ one of them. Are you going to give every one of them a job? If not then shut up and stop blaming them for their misfortune. Yes, some of them will sit there forever out of lack of motivation (it's easy enough to be depressed when you have a home), but many of them will simply not have the necessary opportunities to get themselves out of homelessness, just like many crippled children didn't have the opportunities Hellen Keller had. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:157888 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
