>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:55 AM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: Schiavo Gets In Last Dig
>>
>> > Matthew  wrote:
>> > Yes, I do assume that she won't be reading the
>> > words on her gravestone. I am 100% sure that I
>> > am right.

No one is 100% sure... not even you, Matt.

>> > Therefore, the words must be for somebody else,
>> > and he already knows that he kept her promise,
>> > so... but that's my opinion, and I now think
>> > he's a jerk.

Your logic is flawed because you're making the assumption that he
shares your beliefs. How do you know?

>> Then that means you think all sentiments on all
>> gravestones are the signs of a jerk.
>>
>> For example, let's say your wife dies and you put,
>> "Beloved wife and mother".  What a jerk you are!
>> After all, she can't read it and you already know
>> that so why put it there?  Obviously just to
>> stick it to those that didn't like her.  Sheesh.

You don't think people who liked her might be comforted by this
affirmation? Not that I personally find it comforting (it's too
sterile), but it seems like that's usually the motivation.

> I'm not sure how that follows...

> I also do not believe in life after death.
> Everything that happens once the light goes out
> is for the benefit of the living.

> So sentiments on gravestones are all for the living.
> But that basic fact doesn't make those sentiments
> either "good" or "bad" and doesn't predicate
> which of the living are the primary target of
> the message.

Yes, but the fundamental flaw in this reasoning is that is makes the
assumption that the person crafting the inscription on the grave stone
has the same belief about life after death and/or about the purpose of
the gravestone. It's entirely possible that the person responsible for
the inscription could share only one or neither of those belief sets.
They could believe in life after death and yet have the purpose of the
inscription be solely to fulfill their own internal desire for
"closure" (which would be "for the benefit of the living" but not for
the benefit of the living that others seem to believe it's for). Any
assumption you make about the inscription which is predicated with any
belief of yours will have no bearing whatsoever on the actual intent
because it's not your inscription or your set of beliefs behind it. So
it doesn't matter if I happen to know that Schiavo is an atheist --
that doesn't help me understand the inscription. You're at best
guessing and at worst slandering (which will naturally become "Schiavo
said he only wrote that on the headstone to stick it to her parents"
the next time someone else repeats it).

(Jim: the last sentence wasn't directed at you. :)

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