no...there are not.....but I refer you back to the original figures, 600
Palestinians versus 200 Israelis. Not all of that 600 were terrorists,
probably not even most, otherwise why aren't Israel winning this war? Just
because some Palestinians commit gross acts of murder does not mean they are
all guilty.

We have had to live with the IRA for years. But no-one has ever suggested
that innocent Irish citizens deserve to die because of what some of their
country folk have done. This point is a no-brainer. Interestingly, the
proximity to peace in Northern Ireland has come about due to political
discussions, NOT military action. Military action in Israel will NOT make
this go away. It never has up till now, and it won't in the future.

You say the Palestinians want Israel gone. And what is the goal of Israel in
regard to the Palestinians?

will


-----Original Message-----
From: Lon Lentz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 December 2001 15:23
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Massive blasts rock Central Jerusalem :(


  I think Michael's original point was a good one. There are no Jews
strapping explosives to themselves and walking into Palestinian night
clubs.

  I don't know how more stark the differences are between the Israelis
and the Palestinians. The Palestinians have banners hanging on street
light posts bearing the pictures of all the young men who have strapped
explosives to their bodies and blown themselves up killing men, women,
and children. And some camera shots seem to indicate that there are LOTS
of them.

  The Palestinians have a Martyr's organization that recruits these
kids. A cowardly group that would ask others to give their lives while
they sit in comfort. This organization pledges continued support for the
families of these men. They have recruited young fathers away from their
wives and children.

  The Palestinians want Israel gone. They want it destroyed. They want
all Israelis dead. No matter what Israel gives them, it will not be
enough. It will never be enough.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:05 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Massive blasts rock Central Jerusalem :(
>
>
> Nothing is ever as it seems. I would challenge you to find a news
source
> that is truly objective. Especially with something as emotionally
> charged as
> this.
>
> I have to say, I find your opening point slightly sickening. What
> you appear
> to be saying is that it's ok if Palestinian children have died,
because it
> was an accident. Next you'll be saying they bought it on

<snip>

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