She wears combat boots too ;-)

Michael Corrigan
Programmer
Endora Digital Solutions 
www.endoradigital.com
630/942-5211 x-134
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Larry Lyons 
  To: CF-Community 
  Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:38 AM
  Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work


  Damn I knew I should have showered this morning.

  To keep things going,

  Your mother dresses you funny.

  larry

  --
  Larry C. Lyons
  ColdFusion/Web Developer
  EBStor.com
  8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
  Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
  tel:   (703) 393-7930
  fax:   (703) 393-2659
  Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
         http://www.pacel.com
  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
  --

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:33 AM
  > To: CF-Community
  > Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
  > 
  > 
  > You're right.  Forgot about that thing.
  > 
  > Wait, I can't admit to being wrong on this list (that would be too 
  > genuine) so pretend that I disagreed with you and made some 
  > lame-brained 
  > argument that makes you look like the bad guy.  That would 
  > make it par 
  > for the course ;-)
  > 
  > To make it easier, you smell :-)
  > 
  > Michael Corrigan
  > Programmer
  > Endora Digital Solutions 
  > www.endoradigital.com
  > 630/942-5211 x-134
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: Larry Lyons 
  >   To: CF-Community 
  >   Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:19 AM
  >   Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
  > 
  > 
  >   Yes, but with the new  so called American Patriotism Act, roving 
  > electronic
  >   wiretaps (i.e.., Carnivore) would not require the same judicial 
  > protections
  >   as current wiretap laws.
  > 
  >   larry
  > 
  >   --
  >   Larry C. Lyons
  >   ColdFusion/Web Developer
  >   EBStor.com
  >   8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
  >   Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
  >   tel:   (703) 393-7930
  >   fax:   (703) 393-2659
  >   Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
  >          http://www.pacel.com
  >   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
  >   --
  > 
  >   > -----Original Message-----
  >   > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  >   > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM
  >   > To: CF-Community
  >   > Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   > Where did you hear that?  This is from the FBI website.  It's 
  >   > the link 
  >   > that I posted just a few minutes ago. 
  >   > 
  >   > "Under Title III, applications for interception require the 
  >   > authorization of a high-level Department of Justice (DOJ) 
  > official 
  >   > before the local United States Attorneys offices can 
  > apply for such 
  >   > orders. Interception orders must be filed with federal district 
  > court 
  >   > judges or before other courts of competent jurisdiction. "
  >   > 
  >   > That would make you wrong.
  >   > 
  >   > Michael Corrigan
  >   > Programmer
  >   > Endora Digital Solutions 
  >   > www.endoradigital.com
  >   > 630/942-5211 x-134
  >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   >   From: Larry Lyons 
  >   >   To: CF-Community 
  >   >   Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:09 AM
  >   >   Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   >   However wiretaps require a warrant from a court, Carnivore 
does 
  > not 
  >   > have
  >   >   this requirement. Personally I think that before installing or 

  >   > activating
  >   >   Carnivore should require an equivalent warrant.
  >   > 
  >   >   larry
  >   > 
  >   >   --
  >   >   Larry C. Lyons
  >   >   ColdFusion/Web Developer
  >   >   EBStor.com
  >   >   8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
  >   >   Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
  >   >   tel:   (703) 393-7930
  >   >   fax:   (703) 393-2659
  >   >   Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
  >   >          http://www.pacel.com
  >   >   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   >   Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
  >   >   --
  >   > 
  >   >   > -----Original Message-----
  >   >   > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  >   >   > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:52 AM
  >   >   > To: CF-Community
  >   >   > Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > Carnivore is considered, by law, to be akin to something 
like 
  >   >   > wire tapping - so, just like phone companies can't 
  >   > refuse, neither 
  >   > can
  >   >   > ISP's.
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > Howie
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > ----- Original Message -----
  >   >   > From: "Kevin Gilchrist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >   >   > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >   >   > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:48 AM
  >   >   > Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > 
  >   >   > > Far better to grab the keys and passwords that to force 
  >   >   > decrypt packets,
  >   >   > > heh heh.
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > > From what I'd heard a lot of ISP's had baulked at 
  >   >   > installing Carnivore
  >   >   > > until 9/11 after which time, I could have sworn I read 
  >   >   > somewhere, that
  >   >   > > legislation was pushed through mandating the installation?
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > 
  >   >   
  >   > 
  >   
  > 
  
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