and ugly to boot.

larry

--
Larry C. Lyons
ColdFusion/Web Developer
EBStor.com
8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
tel:   (703) 393-7930
fax:   (703) 393-2659
Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
       http://www.pacel.com
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:47 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
> 
> 
> She wears combat boots too ;-)
> 
> Michael Corrigan
> Programmer
> Endora Digital Solutions 
> www.endoradigital.com
> 630/942-5211 x-134
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Larry Lyons 
>   To: CF-Community 
>   Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:38 AM
>   Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
> 
> 
>   Damn I knew I should have showered this morning.
> 
>   To keep things going,
> 
>   Your mother dresses you funny.
> 
>   larry
> 
>   --
>   Larry C. Lyons
>   ColdFusion/Web Developer
>   EBStor.com
>   8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
>   Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
>   tel:   (703) 393-7930
>   fax:   (703) 393-2659
>   Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
>          http://www.pacel.com
>   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
>   --
> 
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:33 AM
>   > To: CF-Community
>   > Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
>   > 
>   > 
>   > You're right.  Forgot about that thing.
>   > 
>   > Wait, I can't admit to being wrong on this list (that 
> would be too 
>   > genuine) so pretend that I disagreed with you and made some 
>   > lame-brained 
>   > argument that makes you look like the bad guy.  That would 
>   > make it par 
>   > for the course ;-)
>   > 
>   > To make it easier, you smell :-)
>   > 
>   > Michael Corrigan
>   > Programmer
>   > Endora Digital Solutions 
>   > www.endoradigital.com
>   > 630/942-5211 x-134
>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: Larry Lyons 
>   >   To: CF-Community 
>   >   Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:19 AM
>   >   Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Yes, but with the new  so called American Patriotism 
> Act, roving 
>   > electronic
>   >   wiretaps (i.e.., Carnivore) would not require the same judicial 
>   > protections
>   >   as current wiretap laws.
>   > 
>   >   larry
>   > 
>   >   --
>   >   Larry C. Lyons
>   >   ColdFusion/Web Developer
>   >   EBStor.com
>   >   8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
>   >   Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
>   >   tel:   (703) 393-7930
>   >   fax:   (703) 393-2659
>   >   Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
>   >          http://www.pacel.com
>   >   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   >   Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
>   >   --
>   > 
>   >   > -----Original Message-----
>   >   > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   >   > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM
>   >   > To: CF-Community
>   >   > Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
>   >   > 
>   >   > 
>   >   > Where did you hear that?  This is from the FBI website.  It's 
>   >   > the link 
>   >   > that I posted just a few minutes ago. 
>   >   > 
>   >   > "Under Title III, applications for interception require the 
>   >   > authorization of a high-level Department of Justice (DOJ) 
>   > official 
>   >   > before the local United States Attorneys offices can 
>   > apply for such 
>   >   > orders. Interception orders must be filed with 
> federal district 
>   > court 
>   >   > judges or before other courts of competent jurisdiction. "
>   >   > 
>   >   > That would make you wrong.
>   >   > 
>   >   > Michael Corrigan
>   >   > Programmer
>   >   > Endora Digital Solutions 
>   >   > www.endoradigital.com
>   >   > 630/942-5211 x-134
>   >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   >   From: Larry Lyons 
>   >   >   To: CF-Community 
>   >   >   Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:09 AM
>   >   >   Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
>   >   > 
>   >   > 
>   >   >   However wiretaps require a warrant from a court, Carnivore 
> does 
>   > not 
>   >   > have
>   >   >   this requirement. Personally I think that before 
> installing or 
> 
>   >   > activating
>   >   >   Carnivore should require an equivalent warrant.
>   >   > 
>   >   >   larry
>   >   > 
>   >   >   --
>   >   >   Larry C. Lyons
>   >   >   ColdFusion/Web Developer
>   >   >   EBStor.com
>   >   >   8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
>   >   >   Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
>   >   >   tel:   (703) 393-7930
>   >   >   fax:   (703) 393-2659
>   >   >   Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
>   >   >          http://www.pacel.com
>   >   >   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   >   >   Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
>   >   >   --
>   >   > 
>   >   >   > -----Original Message-----
>   >   >   > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   >   >   > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:52 AM
>   >   >   > To: CF-Community
>   >   >   > Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work
>   >   >   > 
>   >   >   > 
>   >   >   > Carnivore is considered, by law, to be akin to something 
> like 
>   >   >   > wire tapping - so, just like phone companies can't 
>   >   > refuse, neither 
>   >   > can
>   >   >   > ISP's.
>   >   >   > 
>   >   >   > Howie
>   >   >   > 
>   >   >   > ----- Original Message -----
>   >   >   > From: "Kevin Gilchrist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   >   >   > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   >   >   > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:48 AM
>   >   >   > Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work
>   >   >   > 
>   >   >   > 
>   >   >   > > Far better to grab the keys and passwords that to force 
>   >   >   > decrypt packets,
>   >   >   > > heh heh.
>   >   >   > >
>   >   >   > > From what I'd heard a lot of ISP's had baulked at 
>   >   >   > installing Carnivore
>   >   >   > > until 9/11 after which time, I could have sworn I read 
>   >   >   > somewhere, that
>   >   >   > > legislation was pushed through mandating the 
> installation?
>   >   >   > >
>   >   >   > 
>   >   >   
>   >   > 
>   >   
>   > 
>   
> 
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