That is what I like to see! A nice, mature, well-reasoned argument between two grown-ups who respect one another....
(keyboard just died - this new one is much nicer!) Erin -----Original Message----- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:38 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work Damn I knew I should have showered this morning. To keep things going, Your mother dresses you funny. larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 fax: (703) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:33 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work > > > You're right. Forgot about that thing. > > Wait, I can't admit to being wrong on this list (that would be too > genuine) so pretend that I disagreed with you and made some > lame-brained > argument that makes you look like the bad guy. That would > make it par > for the course ;-) > > To make it easier, you smell :-) > > Michael Corrigan > Programmer > Endora Digital Solutions > www.endoradigital.com > 630/942-5211 x-134 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Larry Lyons > To: CF-Community > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:19 AM > Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work > > > Yes, but with the new so called American Patriotism Act, roving > electronic > wiretaps (i.e.., Carnivore) would not require the same judicial > protections > as current wiretap laws. > > larry > > -- > Larry C. Lyons > ColdFusion/Web Developer > EBStor.com > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > tel: (703) 393-7930 > fax: (703) 393-2659 > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > http://www.pacel.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > -- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 11:15 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work > > > > > > Where did you hear that? This is from the FBI website. It's > > the link > > that I posted just a few minutes ago. > > > > "Under Title III, applications for interception require the > > authorization of a high-level Department of Justice (DOJ) > official > > before the local United States Attorneys offices can > apply for such > > orders. Interception orders must be filed with federal district > court > > judges or before other courts of competent jurisdiction. " > > > > That would make you wrong. > > > > Michael Corrigan > > Programmer > > Endora Digital Solutions > > www.endoradigital.com > > 630/942-5211 x-134 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Larry Lyons > > To: CF-Community > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:09 AM > > Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work > > > > > > However wiretaps require a warrant from a court, Carnivore does > not > > have > > this requirement. Personally I think that before installing or > > activating > > Carnivore should require an equivalent warrant. > > > > larry > > > > -- > > Larry C. Lyons > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > EBStor.com > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > http://www.pacel.com > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > -- > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:52 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Two points and then back to work > > > > > > > > > Carnivore is considered, by law, to be akin to something like > > > wire tapping - so, just like phone companies can't > > refuse, neither > > can > > > ISP's. > > > > > > Howie > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kevin Gilchrist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:48 AM > > > Subject: RE: Two points and then back to work > > > > > > > > > > Far better to grab the keys and passwords that to force > > > decrypt packets, > > > > heh heh. > > > > > > > > From what I'd heard a lot of ISP's had baulked at > > > installing Carnivore > > > > until 9/11 after which time, I could have sworn I read > > > somewhere, that > > > > legislation was pushed through mandating the installation? > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
