By the way, a minor correction here. I don't think that there was a mandatory evacuation of all of St Augustine. But at the time I was camping in a park quite a bit off the beaten track south of St Augustine and the conversation with the ranger went sort of like this: Ma'am, are you aware that there is a hurricane coming up the coast? Um, no... (bright sunny day) Ma'am, are you aware that this park is at the edge of a large wetland? Uh, yes? We did the nature trail yesterday... Ma'am, are you aware that there are alligators in that wetland? Um, yes, there were signs... Ma'am, you have little kids here, we can't be responsible for you if there's flooding oh (pause) Ma'am, you can't stay here, you have to go inland some, I see you're from out of state, and I am telling you. That's pretty much the flavor of it, which I am sure you'all agree sounds pretty mandatory, but there was no wholesale evacuation like there was for Rita, and besides that stretch is fairly lightly populated and I took county roads inland. Dana
On 9/22/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ah. Well I speak from the minimum wage capital of the US here. We are > currently having a debate at the local level here, as to whether we really > want to be the place that companies relocate to because we are dumb enough > to chase after call centers. But it is very possible -- and quite common > here -- to work fulltime and barely break $10k a year. > So I question your assertion that nobody *has* to be poor. I have been > there actually, and sure, I didn't stay poor, but I had a clue what to do > not having been born there. Right at the time, working for fifty cents an > hour after the babysitter, it wasn't something I could snap my fingers and > get out of right that second. > > But I was trying to make a slightly different point. It is very facile to > say, as I did at one point, you know, I was only ever in one mandatory > evacuation but I put my last twenty dollars in the tank and got out of St > Augustine. Yes, but if I had not had a car the twenty dollars would not have > done it. > I was merely making the point, to myself as much as anyone, that it is > easy to not realize what little things become difficult below a certain > economic schedule. Get stranded in a flood when you are already overextended > and daddy has decided to skip a few child support payments, and you remember > quite quickly. > > Dana > > > On 9/22/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Dana wrote: > > > Being poor is hoping the toothache goes away. > > > > > > > I'm a little iffy on this. > > > > Being poor is the suck, no doubt. However people always have a choice > > to work and not to be poor. This country allows everyone a college > > education and an infinite amount of meritocratic opportunities. > > > > That being said, it's tough to escape when you don't know anyone that > > has even been to college much less has a decent job. It just doesn't > > occur to many people how they can get out. That's a problem. > > > > The 'being poor' thing however does nothing to comment on a solution, > > it only attempts to gather emotion about the problem. That's not > > really ethical. > > > > If you want to understand poor, you should watch Hustle and Flow. > > "You know it's hard out here for a pimp ..." > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:174938 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
