What about the phrase A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state?
isn't that important? On 12/19/05, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Larry, > > Why is it in every other reference to "the people" it means individual > citizens. But in this case, you think "the people" refers to the state > government. > > > And I'm curious? Do you think we should ban all guns in the US? > > How do we go about collecting all the unregistered firearms in this country? > > Regulation is the best route here. > > Kevin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 8:59 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Iran > > Lets parse the amendment shall we: > > "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state," > > Clearly refers to a non-federal military arm. The remaining parts of > the amendment are subordinate. > > As for your example its irrelevant. I'll give you a better one, what > would you do if the Bush administration began freely violating US law > authorizing actions against US citizens multiple times. > > Are you willing to actively resist that? I've noticed that you've been > very quiet about this issue: > > "President Bush acknowledged Saturday that since October 2001 he has > authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on international > phone calls and e-mails of people within the United States without > seeking warrants from courts." > > > > On 12/19/05, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Whether you or anybody else believes it, I do happen to beleive that the > > right of the person to keep and bear arms in order to protect themselves > > from a governement run amok. What would you do if the the Bush > > Administration shut down the border and started executing Canadians? You > > should have the right to bear arms, .50 cal included. Should it be > > regulated? Yes, I do believe it should be registered,but not infringed > > upon. I'm not even a gun owner not a member of the NRA, which I do believe > > is a fringe group, but I realize that weapons are the reason there is a US > > today, and the right to bear arms is as important as the right to free > > speech. > > > > - Matt > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:22 AM > > Subject: Re: Iran > > > > > > > The phrase "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security > > > of a free state," is frequently and most conviently forgotten about in > > > the pro gun lobby's propaganda effort. The full amendment is "A well > > > regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, > > > the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be > > > infringed." > > > > > > The common legal consensus, and one that the SCOTUS has followed for > > > over a century now is that the second amendment mainly refers to > > > protections afforded the individual states regarding the establishment > > > of reserves and the National Guard, and not to allow any drooling > > > idiot the right to purchase a 50 cal. machine gun. > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > On 12/19/05, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> What are you talking about? > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:14 AM > > >> Subject: Re: Iran > > >> > > >> > > >> > how about the entire 2nd amendment, and not the edited version that > > >> > the NRA propaganda machine keeps spouting. > > >> > > > >> > larry > > >> > > > >> > On 12/19/05, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >> So I guess this brings up the 2nd Amendment. Are you for/against > it, > > >> >> and > > >> >> why? > > >> >> > > >> >> - Matt > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> >> From: "Kevin Graeme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> >> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> > > >> >> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:07 AM > > >> >> Subject: Re: Iran > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Ugh. That's disgusting. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > On 12/19/05, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >> >> http://www.gac.20m.com/self-def.htm > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> - Matt > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:188710 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
