How ironic that you did. - Matt
----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Putterill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 8:03 AM Subject: Re: Iran > That page is not worthy of comment. > > On 12/19/05, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://www.gac.20m.com/self-def.htm >> >> - Matt >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 3:02 AM >> Subject: Re: Iran >> >> >> > isn't the true christian supposed to turn the other cheek? >> > >> > just sayin' >> > Dana >> > >> > >> > On 12/18/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Wayne wrote: >> >> > called all sorts of names, after being laughed at and derided, the >> >> > "loonies" are being proved right about things like human rights, the >> >> > environment, corrupt corporations and governments etc. >> >> > >> >> >> >> I totally agree with you on all of the issues you mention. I'm just >> >> commenting on pacifism. >> >> >> >> A true pacifist must be willing to stand down when they, their family, >> >> or anyone is physically attacked. If they believe in using violence >> >> for defense, then they are not a pacifist. >> >> >> >> Soldiers, at least western soldiers, are trained to defend themselves, >> >> their families, and other innocents from violent attack. This is >> >> quite different from your description of "killing just because someone >> >> told them to". >> >> >> >> You misunderstand. Soldiers are trained at organized defense against >> >> those that would do you or your wife harm. Put another way, soldiers >> >> are willing to defend those who cannot or will not defend themselves. >> >> And they are trained to do this as a team. >> >> >> >> If protecting your wife from harm means killing an aggressor, then a >> >> soldier will do that. If you are also willing to use violence to >> >> protect your wife, then you and the soldier are no different in your >> >> willingness to kill. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:188692 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
