I'm not saying what they could do if Cubans were 'free' as you put it. I meant if the country was not under trade embargos etc. What could their economy grow to and what could they accomplish? A lot of the poverty in Cuba and the hardships are a direct result of US policies against the country.
Under the circumstances the country has done remarkably well under their brand of socialism, as you call it. Only if those trade embargos are removed and the country is allowed to freely operate in the global marketplace can you or anyone else say whether their form of government and Society works or not.Castro isn't going to live forever, and maybe in a free market even he would loosen some of his grip without the threat of US takeover and destruction of what he has built looming around ever corner! You've never been to Cuba, know nothing about Cubans except what you see in your US news reports and thus what you are spewing equates to nothing more than parroting US Propaganda which has existed against the country for decades. Cuba is a culturally rich and beautiful country, its architecture is something to be treasured and drank in like a fine wine. You speak like an old colonial plantation master who sees those in different cultures and societies as beneath himself and therefore worthy of nothing more than subjugation. You rant that unfettered Capitalism without conscience,which appeals to and fosters one of the Seven Deadly Sins: Greed in mankind is the only way a country can obtain Economic Success. That's really sad. How have the US Trade Sanctions helped the Cuban people? The US doesn't really give a flying f*** about the Cuban people, they fear that Socialism will flourish in their backyard and give an example of a different way of life to their unfettered capitalistic rot. Is Capitalism working for the US? What's the state of your Society currently with the level of Corruption evidenced in the highest levels of your Government? Where Senators and congressmen are bought and sold to the highest bidder, where Energy policies and treaties are broken with the signature on a check. Greed indeed. How can you ever think a society that is governed by Greed and which holds Greed as an ideal for the success of its economy ever function for the 'Good' of mankind? I also started off discussing Chavez, not Castro. You jumped in saying that Chavez was a horrible person because he claims to Respect Castro. Yes Castro IS a Dictator. And that is not the case with Chavez. He was elected through fair democratic elections which were vetted by none other than your great Jimmy Carter, a 'True American' by majority American consensus. Chavez may have ulterior motives, he may metamorphosise into something else in the future. But right now all we have is propaganda. No facts or evidence of anything he is doing wrong. All the evidence we have and what the man's own words say is that he wants nothing to do with the United States, wants to be truly independent and autonomous and not at the beck and call of whomever sits in the US Whitehouse. Oh...and of course wanting the same for his neighbours and his people. On 1/6/06, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If Cuba can acheive what it has to date under 'Socialism' with all the > > pressures and interference of the United States I would Love to see > > what they could do in a truly 'Free' society. > > Bwahahahah. I bet millions of Cubans would love too see what they could > accomplish too! What a strange argument you just made: > > "Castro is great because he's achieved so much without granting his citizens > freedom. Just think how great they'd be if he DID grant them freedom!" > > > Agreed. But Castro IS a dictator, isn't he? > > > I didn't, because I never argued anything about Chavez, whom I know little > or nothing about....I only entered when you started applauding Castro. > > See above statement. And if you are accusing Gruss or myself of parroting > the US Media......brotha, you aint been payin' attention. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:190866 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
