But isn't collectivism what government is in the first place?  I think the 
question is how far you want to go with it.
- Matt


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Heald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:58 PM
Subject: RE: Next in line to be labelled Dictator by America


> Replace greed with self interest or ambition, like I said, and you can 
> make
> the argument that capitalism is true to the nature of man.
>
> Several writers, using artistic license, use the word greed to explain 
> that
> in human nature which makes us want more, and work harder.
>
> I don't agree with you man, and I don't think that any form of 
> collectivist
> government will truly work.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:55 PM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: Next in line to be labelled Dictator by America
>>
>> Ah...but a general desire to do better does not equal Greed.
>> Greed is something completely different and has nothing *but*
>> a Negative connotation.
>>
>> And unless we are talking about pure Greed the case for a
>> Capitalist economy vs a mixed capitalist or a non-capitalist
>> economy cannot be made simply by pointing to man's Nature.
>>
>> On 1/10/06, Tim Heald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I think the semantic argument is where some people get lost
>> here Gruss.
>> >
>> > It might be better to use a word like ambition or desire.
>> Greed has
>> > such a negative connotation for most people that you will
>> > automatically have people arguing with you.
>>
>>
>
> 

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