I agree here -

"From a purely objective perspective I don't really think that ID 
proponents should be able to have things both ways here."
But if you don't allow it in philosophy class, then ID proponents don't have 
it at all, and then the opponents have it both ways.

Proponents want it in science class, but opponents won't let them.  So they 
put it in philosophy class and you object?  I don't get the thinking here.

- Matt


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: I'm gonna back Intelligent Design


> What's to be torn about? ID is a philosophy about the origin of the 
> species
> that centers on a Designer, a God. We know it's not science....so any 
> class
> that addresses it should be in the religious or philosophical study. QED.
>
>>
>> I'm torn on this one.  Is the class "about Intelligent Design" or about
>> lots
>> of ideas like Intelligent Design?
>>
>> From a purely objective perspective I don't really think that ID
>> proponents
>> should be able to have things both ways here.
>>
>> They force the claim that "ID is science!" - that's the fundamental core
>> argument.  As such it should not be taught in a philosophy class (and
>> honestly if that's their position ID proponents should be against this as
>> well).
>>
>> If it's a scientific concept it should be judged, criticized and dealt
>> with
>> at that level and none other.  Considering the serious sciences you
>> wouldn't
>> have a "philosophy of geology" or "philosophy of biology" class, right?
>> And
>> considering the pseudosciences how would you feel about a "philosophy
>> class"
>> on astrology, homeopathy, reflexology or ESP?
>>
>> For that matter how would ID, a self-proclaimed scientific discipline,
>> even
>> be taught as a course of philosophic study?  If the class is called
>> "philosophy" but the materials are presented claim to be science then
>> isn't
>> it a science class?
>>
>> Jim Davis
>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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