you know -- I spent several years working on the wrong side of the tracks in 
Washington DC, which is an inner city if there ever was one, and I don't think 
I *ever* met anyone who got up in the morning and said "today, I will refuse to 
participate in the economy!" 

;) No offense,but what I see here is a bunch of people pointing fingers at 
people they have not met. That said, I do think that welfare reform as 
implemented under Clinton was somewhat positive, if not totally 
thought-through. Most of what you guys are proposing as solutions -- a time 
limit for example -- already exists.

Dana


>We have come a long way from the original purpose of these programs. 
>They are part of what was a war on poverty.  It was supposed to give
>people in extreme economic distress a chance to have a better life. 
>It was never supposed to bread and circuses for those who refuse to
>participate in the economy other than as consumers.
>
>1. The money is not for those who refuse to work, it's for their
>children.  And to prevent the current rampant abuse of the system, it
>should be dispersed as vouchers for food, housing, clothing and child
>care - for the children.
>
>2. There are those who are truly unable to work, due to age or
>illness, a lot of whom are women who never worked outside the home and
>have no pension or Social Security.  We need to provide for them in
>some way.  My 73 year old neighbor's Social Security check is 78
>dollars a month.  Could you live on that?
>
>3. Those who are poorly trained and need some kind of interim
>financial support while they gain training or employment.  Again, this
>would be better in the form of vouchers for food, clothing, housing
>and training than just throwing cash at the problem.
>
>On 1/26/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I'll start by giving 3 examples of people that would have gotten, but
>> didn't receive, welfare, minimum wage, etc.  Then you provide 3
>> examples of people and explain why they're not capable of doing
>> exactly as my 3 did.

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